Vive_La_Villa Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: We were certainly hitting it quick and long into the corners as soon as the defence picked it up on Saturday instead of just playing it to one of the midfielders. Could be just due to Doug not playing as he can start off the moves while that isn't a strong point for Marvellous or it was a weakness we identified from watching Arsenal before. Or we scored the goal from them making a mistake from a long ball from us so decided to use that tactic for rest of first half. I personally think it was because there was no Dougie there always available for a pass. I don’t think some of our fans appreciate what he does and how important he is. There’s always going to be games where we need Nakamba and have to dig deep because won’t have as much of the ball. But as we improve as a team we’ll need to move away from having to play that way and keep the ball much better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I personally think it was because there was no Dougie there always available for a pass. I don’t think some of our fans appreciate what he does and how important he is. There’s always going to be games where we need Nakamba and have to dig deep because won’t have as much of the ball. But as we improve as a team we’ll need to move away from having to play that way and keep the ball much better. I was one of them. Now i'm convinced we need him but maybe some games we need the extra insurance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 17 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Nakamba has a higher passing accuracy than Luiz for this season and last season. You could argue Luiz is better at long ball passing, but their short passing stats are near identical. I don't think Nakamba loses the ball as much as people think. Nakamba has just presided over 3 clean sheets, in his last 3 outings.......different players for me, so comparisons are not that helpful to me. It just depends how the manager wants to set up.....but far from criticising Dougie, I prefer to see a marked improvement in Marvellous.....its good for squad progression and player residual value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Nakamba has a higher passing accuracy than Luiz for this season and last season. You could argue Luiz is better at long ball passing, but their short passing stats are near identical. I don't think Nakamba loses the ball as much as people think. Marvellous hasn't played the number of games Dougie has though.....I'm not sure a direct comparison of player, is helpful.....Dean just needs to use them, when he see's fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, PaulC said: I was one of them. Now i'm convinced we need him but maybe some games we need the extra insurance. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'd like to see Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn in a midfield three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Skruff said: I'd like to see Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn in a midfield three. thats a really...really small midfield 3. Edited February 9, 2021 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 9, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, TRO said: Nakamba has just presided over 3 clean sheets, in his last 3 outings.......different players for me, so comparisons are not that helpful to me. It just depends how the manager wants to set up.....but far from criticising Dougie, I prefer to see a marked improvement in Marvellous.....its good for squad progression and player residual value. i like marvelous and was intrigued to see how he'd cope vs arsenal when the other 2 clean sheets you mention were against burnley and newcastle where he was given the freedom of VP both games i thought he did exceptionally well saturday, got passes away often when under pressure. i think CDM is a position we comfortably have 2 PL quality players, who can be rotated on an as needed basis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, MaVilla said: thats a really...really small midfield 3. If you're worried about the defensive part, anyone one of them offers more then a taller Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Skruff said: If you're worried about the defensive part, anyone one of them offers more then a taller Barkley. urm.....ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, MaVilla said: urm.....ok. So you don't agree that any of the three offers more defensively then Barkley regardless of their height? Or you're your in the opinion that their avg height would cause problems in other parts of the pitch? Or that taking Barkley out would cost us too much going forward? All three maybe? If your going quote and comment my posts, at least have an opinion? It would be a small midfield trio, what's the issues you're seeing with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 39 minutes ago, Skruff said: I'd like to see Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn in a midfield three. In some games I would agree with you but i think Barkley offers a lot more from an attacking perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i like marvelous and was intrigued to see how he'd cope vs arsenal when the other 2 clean sheets you mention were against burnley and newcastle where he was given the freedom of VP both games i thought he did exceptionally well saturday, got passes away often when under pressure. i think CDM is a position we comfortably have 2 PL quality players, who can be rotated on an as needed basis I am not getting carried away....but he does seem to have improved, he seems more aware of his surroundings....but the sample size is small at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Has ever right to be fuming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, rodders0223 said: Has ever right to be fuming. No he doesn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Has ever right to be fuming. Marvelous would have offered more than Barkley for sure. Our midfield yet again was too soft and they played through us repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: No he doesn't. Once fair enough. That is twice now has been dropped after stellar performances in wins for players who weren't doing the business when he replaced them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Once again watches on as 3 lard arses trot about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 This marvellous man needs to start the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 The underperformance of others is making him a more viable option. I don't know why McGinn and Luiz have gone backwards but they have. Virus? I can't believe lack off effort would affect them both at the same time. Confidence perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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