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54 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

Honestly? I’m fine with that. 

The tevez/mascherano deal was a mess for all sorts of reasons. Totally different to this one.

If this guy plays well enough for us to gain a big move for himself then the very least we’ll get is a profit

At this point we're clearly a stepping stone. We should all just accept that. After all, Villa used almost a full team of players to step up into the PL, and then pushed them aside. It's not only one way.

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I think we just have to get our heads around the fact that this is likely to be little more than a loan but that if that’s what it ends up being, it will be because he’s played really well. 

City sold Angeliño to PSV for €5M last summer and have taken him back this summer for a reported €12M (the agreed buyback amount). I’d expect them to be doing the same with Luiz presuming he performs well. If it all pans out like that, we could have a quality player on our books for a year or so and then potentially double our money. 

Appreciate I'm not the first to have made this point in this thread. 

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2 minutes ago, KentVillan said:

I thrive on the pressure, and look forward to the accolades this post will receive when Alan Shearer does a special segment on MOTD.

GARY: "Alan, you wanted to talk a bit about someone who's been impressing you since Villa's shock win against Spurs in August."

ALAN: "No surprises for guessing who. This little Brazilian lad is a special talent. I'll be honest, none of us had heard of him when he arrived here, but boy has he played well. Probably one of the best signings in Premier League history. He's got it all. Here he is sliding in to rescue Neil Taylor. Here's him winning an aerial battle with Eric Dier. And here's his incredible no-look through ball to Wesley for that third goal against Everton."

JERMAINE: "As Alan said, this little Brazilian lad who none of us had heard of us a special, special talent. I'll be honest, he's played well. As a genius box-to-box midfielder myself, there are still some things he needs to learn to be as good as me, but he's one of the best Premier League signings of all time, as KentVillan predicted on Villatalk."

GARY: "Thank you Alan and Jermaine for your insightful analysis. Now over to Old Trafford, where caretaker Michael Carrick leads out relegation-threatened United to cries of Maguire Out."

You must be a hoot at parties :)

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Douglas will be joining a team that has a short term aim to become the 7th ranked team in the Premier League, and a long term ambition to be fighting for the number one spot. Even though he's been owned by Man C, he's only played at Girona for a couple of years which is a relatively small and low key club, so we are an exciting step up for him. He showed his potential recently when surrounded by decent players, captaining the Brazil U23 team in the Toulon tournament. (he was awarded player of the tournament)

Man City have just bought a classy 23 year old holding midfielder for £62.8 million to fight with an experienced Fernandinho for that DM spot and Rodri is likely to make that position his own for years to come. It's unlikely that Man C will be back in for Douglas unless he suddenly becomes a world class DM.

In my opinion it will be a good and potentially long term deal for both Villa and Douglas. 

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Just now, villabromsgrove said:

In my opinion it will be a good and potentially long term deal for both Villa and Douglas. 

Agreed. If any one of our players show "world class" potential this season they will be picked off by the top 4 anyway (as is the case for any team outside the top 4), so I'm not concerned in the slightest by this apparent clause in his contract. 

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3 hours ago, KentVillan said:

I thrive on the pressure, and look forward to the accolades this post will receive when Alan Shearer does a special segment on MOTD.

GARY: "Alan, you wanted to talk a bit about someone who's been impressing you since Villa's shock win against Spurs in August."

ALAN: "No surprises for guessing who. This little Brazilian lad is a special talent. I'll be honest, none of us had heard of him when he arrived here, but boy has he played well. Probably one of the best signings in Premier League history. He's got it all. Here he is sliding in to rescue Neil Taylor. Here's him winning an aerial battle with Eric Dier. And here's his incredible no-look through ball to Wesley for that third goal against Everton."

JERMAINE: "As Alan said, this little Brazilian lad who none of us had heard of us a special, special talent. I'll be honest, he's played well. As a genius box-to-box midfielder myself, there are still some things he needs to learn to be as good as me, but he's one of the best Premier League signings of all time, as KentVillan predicted on Villatalk."

GARY: "Thank you Alan and Jermaine for your insightful analysis. Now over to Old Trafford, where caretaker Michael Carrick leads out relegation-threatened United to cries of Maguire Out."

It was all pretty believable until you said ‘special segment on motd’. They’ve always hated villa, they’d put us on bbc2 when everyone else is on bbc1 if they could.

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9 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said:

At least he is good at doing the robot dance.

Just learning to walk like an Egyptian to fit in with his new teammates and owner.

Bildresultat för walk like an egyptian

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Not sure if this has already been answered but not seen it anywhere.

Last season he started 16 league games and made 7 substitute appearances for Girona. I've seen lots of comments both on here and in media saying his loan was a huge success. If it was such a big success then why was he not involved more particularly as Girona were relegated? Any ideas?

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1 hour ago, TheMelvillan said:

Susanna hoffs can appear in any thread she wants 😍

I agree, well said !  👏👏👏

"If she was a president she'd be Baberaham Lincoln".  🥰

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20 hours ago, KentVillan said:

I thrive on the pressure, and look forward to the accolades this post will receive when Alan Shearer does a special segment on MOTD.

GARY: "Alan, you wanted to talk a bit about someone who's been impressing you since Villa's shock win against Spurs in August."

ALAN: "No surprises for guessing who. This little Brazilian lad is a special talent. I'll be honest, none of us had heard of him when he arrived here, but boy has he played well. Probably one of the best signings in Premier League history. He's got it all. Here he is sliding in to rescue Neil Taylor. Here's him winning an aerial battle with Eric Dier. And here's his incredible no-look through ball to Wesley for that third goal against Everton."

JERMAINE: "As Alan said, this little Brazilian lad who none of us had heard of us a special, special talent. I'll be honest, he's played well. As a genius box-to-box midfielder myself, there are still some things he needs to learn to be as good as me, but he's one of the best Premier League signings of all time, as KentVillan predicted on Villatalk."

GARY: "Thank you Alan and Jermaine for your insightful analysis. Now over to Old Trafford, where caretaker Michael Carrick leads out relegation-threatened United to cries of Maguire Out."

I actually remember Shearer doing a similar analysis of Neil Taylor when he broke through at Swansea a few years back. Pretty sure he predicted that he'd be England's left back for years to come.

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According to Transfermarkt in the league for the first four games of last season he wasn't even in the squad, so I'm guessing that was due to circumstances that were out of his control, then he missed another seven games due to a muscle injury, and the last game of the season he was away on international duty, so that's twelve games that he might have featured in if he'd have been available. He missed quite a few games the season before as well, which gives credence to my confident and forceful statement that we still need another DM as well as him.

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I wonder when the buy back clause will kick in, hopefully we’re able to negotiate it to kick in after at least two seasons which I’d be happy with.

At that point, if he lives up to his potential we’d likely be losing him to a bigger club clause or no clause 

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16 minutes ago, useless said:

According to Transfermarkt in the league for the first four games of last season he wasn't even in the squad, so I'm guessing that was due to circumstances that were out of his control, then he missed another seven games due to a muscle injury, and the last game of the season he was away on international duty, so that's twelve games that he might have featured in if he'd have been available. He missed quite a few games the season before as well, which gives credence to my confident and forceful statement that we still need another DM as well as him.

I managed to find the stats you were talking about. Looks like he had quite an injury hit season. Also the year before he was hardly used other than as an option off the bench. He is only 21 so he is doing well to get a reasonable amount of game time in La Liga and is only going to improve. I completely agree that based on those stats I would be shocked if Smith was planning to rely on him to start every game. Expecting him to be another rotation option like Konsa, Hause, Hourihane, Jota, El Ghazi.

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Even if he'd have been an ever present in the last few seasons without injury, I still think we'd need another midfielder, all it would take is for him to get an injury and then suddenly we've got no specialist Defensive Midfielders to take his place. Think that we will still go for Phillips, or if that can't be done someone else, Nakamba perhaps.

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