Loxstock92 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, M_Afro said: When does the buy back clause lapse? 5th June I believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Loxstock92 said: 5th June I believe. Cheers. We will soon find out then. It seems unlikely to me but certainly not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 They’d be mad to take him back, he’s nowhere near good enough for them. If they do, and we get 25m, then happy days. He’s ok at a lot of things but I don’t think he’s great for us tbh. Would rather we took that money and spent it on a defensive midfielder who affects the game more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2021 Pretty sure this was a staggered buy back clause, £25m first year , £35m the second. He's a good young player who will definitely get better as a number 8.........as a dcm I can't see him getting good enough for us let alone Manchester Blues 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 He's not got the necessary skills to be a cdm, it's not a size thing, the decision is whether he is the best am, I.e. better than mcginn and sanson. I think whichever camp you're in we can probably agree that over a season we look better with luiz or mcginn and a dedicated cdm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Makes no sense for citeh to take him, especially if it's at 35m, they would have to keep him at that price and just try coach him to another level. They won't be able to sell him for a profit anytime soon at 35m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I think he would do well at City. In a team that dominates territory and possession he has the attributes to play DM really well. Hopefully we will see that at Villa next year with some better quality ahead of him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted May 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) Surprised actually No I am not that some people would be happy if City bought him back. A Brazil international who is granted out of form but also miles from his prime and people want him gone for peanuts. Its like we shouldnt try to build our own squad or allow players to regain form Edited May 30, 2021 by Zatman 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: Its like we shouldnt try to build our own squad or allow players to regain form This is doing my head in lately on here. But Rashica will be better than anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: Surprised actually No I am not that some people would be happy if City bought him back. A Brazil international who is granted out of form but also miles from his prime and people want him gone for peanuts. Its like we shouldnt try to build our own squad or allow players to regain form With you on that. Also don't really get the notion that he hasn't got the traits to play DM when at the same time it's universally acknowledged that his best form for us came post lockdown last season when those are exactly what he displayed. Getting the consistency out of him is one thing but the quality is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I'd hate to see him go back to city. There's so much more to come from him. A dip in from this season, yes, as our whole midfield had. He still has plenty of ability and time to develop. We know he can perform at higher level then what we've seen this season. He's barely at the star of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I cannot imagine Man City will take him back, not necessarily because he didn't have a great season for us, more so they can and now will probably buy the finished player after last night in their continued push to win the chumps league. I hope Luiz stays and can continue to develop and improve as I hope he has alot more to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 He has the potential to develop and I quite like him as player. But I don't think for a second city will trigger the clause. He just has not been impressive enough for that. It's slightly funny though, that his lapse in form could end up being a huge advantage for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I think he would do well at City. In a team that dominates territory and possession he has the attributes to play DM really well. Hopefully we will see that at Villa next year with some better quality ahead of him. I don’t disagree with your second sentence. His problem is that there are currently better players in the position already at City and he would get very little game time. So many players would do so well at Man City because of how good City are but the reason they aren’t at City is due to City having better players in those positions already. You only have to look at our two best players in Emi and Jack, and their equivalents are just as good at City in Ederson and Foden, hence why City are so good. They have arguably the best PL player in each position if not a player whose in the top three from Ederson, Diaz, Fernandinho, KDB, Foden and some others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: He has the potential to develop and I quite like him as player. But I don't think for a second city will trigger the clause. He just has not been impressive enough for that. It's slightly funny though, that his lapse in form could end up being a huge advantage for us. The more likely scenario Man City would trigger a recall is they see us as a threat which they probably don't but should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I already think we need 2 midfielders with him... And he's not good enough for them, he's just an easy "cheap" squad signing Its lazy link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I think he would do well at City. In a team that dominates territory and possession he has the attributes to play DM really well. Hopefully we will see that at Villa next year with some better quality ahead of him. Do you think he would have made a difference in that game last night, for example? Personally, I think he would have been murdered. I like Luiz, but at present, he is no CDM, next season could be a different sroty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Do you think he would have made a difference in that game last night, for example? Personally, I think he would have been murdered. I like Luiz, but at present, he is no CDM, next season could be a different sroty. Probably not. Jack is our only player who you could say with any certainty that they would have made a difference. Due to the non existence of a cf I think Ollie would have done a job too given the circumstances but I don’t think he would normally be considered City class. I do think that Luiz has real growth in him though and the team is about balance. That’s where we are going wrong in my view. The balance of the midfield is not right. Put Luiz alongside Kante and I’m sure you would see a much improved Dougie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: They’d be mad to take him back, he’s nowhere near good enough for them. If they do, and we get 25m, then happy days. He’s ok at a lot of things but I don’t think he’s great for us tbh. Would rather we took that money and spent it on a defensive midfielder who affects the game more. Totally agree....on the ball he is ok, off it he vanishes and the midfield is wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I already think we need 2 midfielders with him... And he's not good enough for them, he's just an easy "cheap" squad signing Its lazy link He pretty much has to be Kante to cover the ground necessary when we play with a CAM and Mcginn. It's a thankless task in Dean's system. Nakamba is definitely better when we play the double pivot behind an attacking 4 but his possession game is horrid. Need to find some balance here next season whether through a new signing or a tweaked setup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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