It's Your Round Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Other Mat said: Good luck to him. Shame it didn't work out looked a decent signing at first then after he returned from injury he just never got going again. CB cover next then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, It's Your Round said: I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. It is a very strange one. Wonder if the rumours of a major tiff were true. How do we know Smith tracked him for so though? Is he quoted as saying as much somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, It's Your Round said: I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. Personally, I liked him. Best result for both parties though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, tomav84 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Makes sense to sell - he's nowhere near the first team, really. Just far too slow for the league and not good enough a defender to mitigate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2021 Wow. Wasn't expecting that. Have we even got a fee out of this? Nothing seems to be mentioned. Strange transfer. Obviously just not fancied by Deano for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 Mingles was alright for a time. Kongs is better though. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I’m impressed how quickly were getting things done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Looked like the second coming of Beckenbauer at one point. Bit of a shame really but we ain't playing around no more. Ruthless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Mat Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, It's Your Round said: Mingles was alright for a time. Kongs is better though. Kongs is King? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. Don't think it was as much as £9m, a quick Google and a few sources seem to agree it was around €8m Euro, which works out just shy of £7m, that's pretty cheap these days. I take your point though, it's a strange one, looked good to begin with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, est1874 said: It is a very strange one. Wonder if the rumours of a major tiff were true. How do we know Smith tracked him for so though? Is he quoted as saying as much somewhere? Yeah he mentioned it when we signed him. https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/07/17/smith-on-engels Quote Engels joined us here on our USA Tour after putting pen to paper on a claret and blue deal. And Smith was thrilled to get his man as he extolled his defensive and attacking qualities. He told Club TV: “I am very pleased. “Björn is one I’ve kept an eye on for probably 18 months. He first came to my attention when I was Head Coach at Brentford. He moved on to Reims from Olympiacos and I’ve kept an eye on his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. I think he just got found out really. Was a smart user of the ball and in a decent team again could do a job but yes once he started getting exposed it was touch to watch. I'd be surprised if there was an upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Smith obviously decided that Bjorn was not good enough as he played a grand total of 0 minutes of first team football last season for us. He could tackle but I think he was just not mobile enough for the modern PL. He gave a very affable interview a few months back in which he was happy and settled but it hardly pointed to a motivated player trying everything to get first team football. Not the end of the world he didn't cost most for premier league signings. They don't all work out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Engels made it clear he had no issue with Dean and just fell out of favour and had injuries. Its good he's been moved on and isn't dead wood. He had a good debut v Spurs but it just didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: I think he just got found out really. Was a smart user of the ball and in a decent team again could do a job but yes once he started getting exposed it was touch to watch. I'd be surprised if there was an upset. Yeah that’s probably the case. He wasn’t very quick and you need pace in the PL, if you haven’t got exemplary reading of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtkinsonWonderGoal Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Shame. I really liked him. Was ahead of Kourtney Howler for me in the pecking order... although KH did do well recently in those few games he played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, sidcow said: Have we even got a fee out of this? Nothing seems to be mentioned. We pretty much never mention anything unless it’s a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: I’d love to know exactly what happened with Engels. He played a fair bit up until that horrendous Leicester game. He’ll always be remembered for failing to trap the ball against Spurs, giving them the win. Was it just that his confidence was shot? Too many injuries? Or that Smith just didn’t rate him? £9m is still a reasonable fee for a player to turn out badly. Especially when Smith had tracked him for so long. He looked good on the ball and fairly decent at first. Eventually he got horribly exposed due to a serious lack of pace and athleticism. Never a prem player. The spurs error just cemented it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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