AVFCDAN Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Think there's some promise with him to be honest. Barring that horrible mistake against Spurs he's had a pretty solid season. His lack of pace is a major concern but his reading of the game and ability to make a last ditch tackle negate the concern somewhat. Could be really good in a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 I see a number of posts mention his lack of pace yet he has the joint fourth recorded sprint speed with Kyle Walker this season of 22.9mph Quote Kyle Walker was joint fourth along with Aston Villa defender Bjorn Engels - the pair were each recorded as running at 22.9mph this season. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/revealed-six-fastest-players-premier-league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sparrow1988 Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 It's the acceleration that kills him. His speed is not too bad but he's already losing a few yards getting up to pace. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 He played well yesterday and if Smith prefers a left and right foot combo in a 4 then he’s ahead of Konsa. Although I would prefer Hause and Mings, as both faster/stronger and better in the air. As others have said it’s not much use having a fast top speed if it takes 30 yards to get upto pace. I suspect those top speed stats are players chasing 30/40 yards without the ball, so it won’t be a full sample size of all PL players top speeds either. Apparently Engels hasn’t played with Mings in a 4 since the Liverpool 1-2 home game. It seems he’ll get his chance now to re-establish that partnership. Although next game against Leicester and Vardy, albeit Engels and Mings weren’t on the pitch at the same time in that home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The Mingels partnership is by no means perfect but i don't trust Konsa and Hause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, thabucks said: I see a number of posts mention his lack of pace yet he has the joint fourth recorded sprint speed with Kyle Walker this season of 22.9mph https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/revealed-six-fastest-players-premier-league Haha That's ridiculous. You only have to watch him to know this isn't right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphouneso Posted March 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2020 21 hours ago, villalad21 said: His lack of pace is concerning. Would still play Konsa and Mings I think. 45 minutes ago, villalad21 said: The Mingels partnership is by no means perfect but i don't trust Konsa and Hause 2 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 It looks like his header deflects off the head of a Man City player. Would love to have known where his header was going. Looks like it was going back across the keeper to the other corner. So unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: Haha That's ridiculous. You only have to watch him to know this isn't right. I can see him hitting a high top speed. Kinda like how Wesley has a high speed over long distances. But they're both so slow off the blocks that it doesn't really matter. The player's already past you by the time you hit that 22 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I can see him hitting a high top speed. Kinda like how Wesley has a high speed over long distances. But they're both so slow off the blocks that it doesn't really matter. The player's already past you by the time you hit that 22 mph Yep watch the footage of Usain Bolt playing football in Australia. He doesn't look particularly fast either, because he never gets a chance to build up to top speed. Football isn't a game for tall 100m sprinters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Random question - is Mingels the tallest regular/semi-regular CB pairing in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mantis said: Random question - is Mingels the tallest regular/semi-regular CB pairing in the league? Probably in terms of actual regular pairings, yes, but there are a couple others that are worth mentioning: Matip (6'5) and Van Dijk (6'4) Dan Burn (6'7!!), Lewis Dunk (6'4), Shane Duffy (6'4) have played as a back 3 I think. Liverpool and Brighton are the teams that sprung to mind, there must be a couple others. (Edit: makes you wonder why we've left Guilbert picking up Rodri ) Edited March 2, 2020 by KentVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, KentVillan said: Probably in terms of actual regular pairings, yes, but there are a couple others that are worth mentioning: Matip (6'5) and Van Dijk (6'4) Dan Burn (6'7!!), Lewis Dunk (6'4), Shane Duffy (6'4) have played as a back 3 I think. Liverpool and Brighton are the teams that sprung to mind, there must be a couple others. Dan Burn has been a left back mostly which is a bit mad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2020 On 02/03/2020 at 08:33, LondonVillian said: Engels had a solid game would rather continue with him and mings as the CB pairing. yeah i think for now i'm done with hause and konsa. those 2 were class in the first quarter of the season then something went wrong with engels. rumours of a bust up, and a couple of poor performances sent him to 4th choice. i've not given up on konsa or hause, but mingels for the rest of the season please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, sparrow1988 said: It's the acceleration that kills him. His speed is not too bad but he's already losing a few yards getting up to pace. He is a sound defender and football player but you are correct, I'd instruct him to stay deeper than the rest. Surely pace/acceleration is something which can be worked on though? Obviously you can't make anyone Usain Bolt, but with modern training, focusing on explosiveness and fast twitch muscles etc, surely we can get him quicker somewhat? (Physical and genetic makeup obviously play a part but...) I think Jack has gotten quicker over the years myself, but you can tell he beasts it in the gym. Edited March 3, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: He is a sound defender and football player but you are correct, I'd instruct him to stay deeper than the rest. Surely pace/acceleration is something which can be worked on though? Obviously you can't make anyone Usain Bolt, but with modern training, focusing on explosiveness and fast twitch muscles etc, surely we can get him quicker somewhat? (Physical and genetic makeup obviously play a part but...) I think Jack has gotten quicker over the years myself, but you can tell he beasts it in the gym. The problem is Smith likes to play a high line so he has to push up with the rest of the back 4. I think when he is alongside Mings it’s not to bad as he has the positioning and pace to cover Engles if needed. When Mings isn’t on the pitch the ball Over the top does Engles time and time again. The home games v Leicester and Spurs being the obvious example. So in a nutshell Engles can only really start alongside Mings if we are going to play a high line. Edited March 3, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Engels can't start of Elmo starts, they would be torn apart by speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Something about him I just like. Even in the spurs game. He made some shockers but I still like him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Did no one scout this guy and think athleticism might be an issue? I liked it when he gave the ball away and then fell over because his body couldn't turn fast enough. Never a premier league player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 He's basically a combine harvester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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