VILLAMARV Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chindie said: The bizarre clearance where he hooked the ball out of the air over his head and away was excellent. Good debut and not much he could have more. I'd forgotten about that until you reminded me of it. I loved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2019 This guy looks the real deal. Really polished performance from what I could see. Excited to see how he progresses in the coming weeks and months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 In many ways he looked like a very good player, made some good blocks, reads the game well and was very good in the air. He won the arial battle with Alderweireld and the set pieces, I thought he would be a bit to weak and get bullied, but saw non of that. The concerns I have, which I hope he improves on, is that he seems a bit passive at times. In the first half when a spurs player was off side when he ran towards goal it was Engels man, but it was Mings and Elmo who rushed back and made the tackle, Engels jogged back. At their first goal and on another occation as well he let the spurs player shoot, he sat down and made some kind of ice hockey block, I'd like him to instead have the instinct that Mings have, that is throwing his body in front of the ball/player, not putting a knee down on the ground and try to cover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 He's basically a rich man's Ciaran Clark (and that's a good thing btw). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I'm with Under A GasLamp, Mings and Engels should be known as "Mingels." They look a good partnership already. Personally, I see him getting caps for Belgium sooner or later. He was nothing short of excellent tonight and a snip at the price we paid for him. All aboard the Mingels train! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granto Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Engels and Mings at the back, with Heaton behind, looks a great setup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Looked like he has been playing in the prem for years. Very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 Great debut and will only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Best debut from a centre half for years. He was so good. If he and Mings stay fit we will be sorted in central defence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Got his Engels right yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: In many ways he looked like a very good player, made some good blocks, reads the game well and was very good in the air. He won the arial battle with Alderweireld and the set pieces, I thought he would be a bit to weak and get bullied, but saw non of that. The concerns I have, which I hope he improves on, is that he seems a bit passive at times. In the first half when a spurs player was off side when he ran towards goal it was Engels man, but it was Mings and Elmo who rushed back and made the tackle, Engels jogged back. At their first goal and on another occation as well he let the spurs player shoot, he sat down and made some kind of ice hockey block, I'd like him to instead have the instinct that Mings have, that is throwing his body in front of the ball/player, not putting a knee down on the ground and try to cover. I thought that he could have been a bit more square on for the Spurs third goal. That was definitely something he could have stopped. You mention he should be more like Mings and throw his body in front of the ball, I agree. However, for their second goal Mings turned side-on and raised his knee to deflect it in. If Mings had stood sqare-on he would have blocked the shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 4 hours ago, QldVilla said: Great debut and will only get better. Agreed. He looked accomplished and the Mings/Engels combo look like it will do us proud over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 To think this time last year we had probably the weakest center back line up I have ever seen at villa , and now we have Engels and Ming's with Konsa and Chester on the bench, it's an amazing turn around and one Smith should be proud of Engels , under severe pressure , was immense and that's taking nothing away from Ming's , but it was his first competitive game for us! His acrobatic clearance was a wtf moment , last time we had a player capable of that type of move was a long time ago.....abit Cahill like to me . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, tinker said: To think this time last year we had probably the weakest center back line up I have ever seen at villa , and now we have Engels and Ming's with Konsa and Chester on the bench, it's an amazing turn around and one Smith should be proud of Engels , under severe pressure , was immense and that's taking nothing away from Ming's , but it was his first competitive game for us! His acrobatic clearance was a wtf moment , last time we had a player capable of that type of move was a long time ago.....abit Cahill like to me . Is this acrobatic clearance in any highlights or snippet vids? Heard it mentioned a few times but haven't seen it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: In many ways he looked like a very good player, made some good blocks, reads the game well and was very good in the air. He won the arial battle with Alderweireld and the set pieces, I thought he would be a bit to weak and get bullied, but saw non of that. The concerns I have, which I hope he improves on, is that he seems a bit passive at times. In the first half when a spurs player was off side when he ran towards goal it was Engels man, but it was Mings and Elmo who rushed back and made the tackle, Engels jogged back. At their first goal and on another occation as well he let the spurs player shoot, he sat down and made some kind of ice hockey block, I'd like him to instead have the instinct that Mings have, that is throwing his body in front of the ball/player, not putting a knee down on the ground and try to cover. I think you raise a good point, and in a good way too. Engels was class, but he can still improve. He gave Kane too much room a few times, most notably at the very end of the first half. But anyway, a very good debut that bodes well for the future. Edited August 11, 2019 by AVTuco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hippo Posted August 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2019 I've gone off Ming's.... I'm loving Engels instead 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 There's not been a more exciting menage a trois than Engels, Mings, Heaton. Ooooff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Is this acrobatic clearance in any highlights or snippet vids? Heard it mentioned a few times but haven't seen it yet? I haven't seen it on highlights, maybe motd had it on, I won't be watching that until we win Edited August 11, 2019 by tinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Thought he was our best player. Won’t come up against many better attacks, and he did well against these ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 11, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2019 I think he looked really good. Very encouraging start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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