brummybloke Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Hmm I'm thinking that despite both our wingers looking dire, maybe it's due to not doing what traditional wingers do, as in get the the line and cross it in. With no one able to win a header the wingers are not doing what wingers normally do. We may not need to change out both wingers if we get a forward they trust to attack a cross ? It would mean they have less to do, can do it earlier and dont have to slow it down waiting for the midfield to get in the box Edited December 27, 2019 by brummybloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 21 hours ago, Zatman said: He is shit, but what do you think you get for 8million these days Agreed - but if he isn't good enough why waste any money on him at all ? - what did the scouting report say "Well this guy is nowhere near good enough - but they only want £8m?" - Its a bit like a bargain pair of shoes that are a couple sizes too small - sure the they are cheap - but they are useless and the outlay is wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I think he has the ability, but like many of our squad at the moment (including for example McGinn), there is something afoot which is preventing them finding their groove. I put it down to lots of new faces from very different backgrounds all finding their feet at the same time in the same team, including the manager, in the toughest league in the world. If we were only integrating one or two players into an established team comfortable and established in that league, they would only be learning one or two things, at the moment it is the definition of chaos - no one is certain how their team mates respond to situations in matches. Its probably also why we are so desperate at set pieces at the moment. I am actually not sure however that El Ghazi has enough attributes to prosper in the PL. He has actually over delivered for me this season in terms of contribution, but I feel he doesn't really carry much threat nor much of an outlet. Yes he is quick and has got into good positions but missed some sitters. He has some great finishes in his history, but I think he has some mental glitch that prevents him from putting it all together. Lets hope they can all improve in the second half of the season. Edited December 27, 2019 by thunderball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 27/12/2019 at 00:16, Villan4Life said: Seems the majority on here disagree with you Sir. Not sure about neither that or the relevance of it. I think from what he has delivered so far in terms of goals and assists, he has been ok if not good value in today's market for the reported fee of £8-9M. Imo there is some merit in calling him the Egyptian Brett Holman, quite funny too he is a bit hit and miss, seems to try too much and be in a rush too much. But I have also seen much quality in him, sadly so more in the first games than in the last ones, allthough he has scored more lately. I thought he was more careful with the ball and passed better in the first games. Some of his touches and technique have been sublime too, like the dummy and cross to McGinn's goal against Burnley. As said he hasn't been good over the last month or so, but that coincides with the whole team not being very good. I think he still tries to adapt to the physicality and the tempo in the Premier League, and I don't see him as a starter in the long run. But some of the comments on here have been silly. I don't know if people had expected him to be like the next Salah after his first 15 games having been signed for £8-9M, but he is not shit or useless. He has been playing like what we could expect from a £8-9M player coming from the Turkish league. He gives his all and should be supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 27/12/2019 at 15:31, Tomaszk said: Callum Robinson and some change would have been infinitely more use this season. Robert Skov was the one! £9m, which I think was the full Trez fee? Somewhere in the 9-11m window I thought? Anyway, Skov! Guy plays two positions we we were desperate for RW and LB! What a miss. Blades have been good and Robinson anonymous. Quick check says 25 mins most he's got in last 9 matches. He's junk and I said this in Fantasy football circles before season started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Blades have been good and Robinson anonymous. Quick check says 25 mins most he's got in last 9 matches. He's junk and I said this in Fantasy football circles before season started He ain't great, but is he better than Trezeguet for less money? Yes. They don't play wingers and Wilder has decided he's not up to it up front anymore so he's fallen out the side. Just an example anyway. Trez has been poor so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Trez is the summer signing that has impressed the least so far but you can see that he is trying too hard at the minute. He just needs to relax and find some confidence. Until that happens it is pretty difficult to judge him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 28, 2019 He's toilet. A winger or two are a priority in January. Our current offerings just nullify our attacks too often 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 18 hours ago, DCJonah said: El Ghazi has got 4 goals and 3 assists. To me that's fine for a winger in a relegation battle team. Trez just looks so far off the required quality at the moment. We need a wide player in Jan because Trez off the bench is a much better option and to be honest, the money we paid for him he should be a squad player and not a regular starter for us. Are we sure El Ghazi isn't just the wing version of Hourihane? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 A shite player is a shite player at the end of the day. I seriously doubt there's anymore gears he can go up. Whilst he may chip in with the odd goal all I see is a player with no football brain or intelligence, a poor first touch, non existent crossing and passing ability and no real ability to get past a player. He doesn't look premier league standard at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jim Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 If I was David Trezeguet I’d be insulted he was using my name on his shirt. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Tomaszk said: He ain't great, but is he better than Trezeguet for less money? Yes. They don't play wingers and Wilder has decided he's not up to it up front anymore so he's fallen out the side. Just an example anyway. Trez has been poor so far. I was never sold on Trez. Turkish league is junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 The Egyptian Tonev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 He sure does make it look difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 thought he did ok today but he's still a frustrating player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I thought he played well today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 He's shit, all effort no quality, horrendous first touch too. Fingers crossed we get more quality in that position this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Yup there's a player in there, shows a lot of quality then can also be so poor giving the ball away too easily. I thought he was fouled in the first half too, skinned a burnley defender to run into the box only to be hauled back....anywhere else on the pitch that's a clear foul. Nice bit of skill there from Trezeguet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Also thought he did well, he has pace and knows how to pass and move, granted he's rather limited but probably more effective than Jota at the mo. I think he'll get better the more he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I've only watched the first half so far, but I am slightly puzzled why anyone would rip into him after tonight. Both our goals came from work where Trez broke free and released the ball. He was indirectly responsible for those goals actually happening. Thought he had a good first half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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