ozvillafan Posted April 5, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: What did the celebration mean? I thought it was “don’t tell me to shoot myself” ... but might be wrong? I thought the same. Perhaps he's been reading what people have been saying about him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted April 5, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: I thought the same. Perhaps he's been reading what people have been saying about him here? It did sort of seem like that... maybe not on here but perhaps on Twootter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) We saw the good, the bad and the ugly all in his cameo yesterday. Very likeable squad player though. His header at the far post was appalling and you think at this point, why do we use him but then the madness. He harassed and rattled their defence, his goals taken well and his endless running gave us some zip. No doubt we need an upgrade but I like his work ethic and honesty. Edited April 5, 2021 by ferguson1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, alreadyexists said: What did the celebration mean? I thought it was “don’t tell me to shoot myself” ... but might be wrong? If it was a gun then I think I've got it... maybe he was saying 'be quiet' to those who have 'shot him down' with criticism. But I'm not convinced that it was definitely a gun. Maybe he simply wanted to point to his mind. Edited April 5, 2021 by robby b 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Zatman said: He has not even lived in England 2 years, Aguero has lived nearly a decade and Wayne Rooney over 3 decades and they survived without ever leaening the language Sorry, I got mixed up about when he joined us. I'm not saying his English is really bad, in some ways it's actually quite good or ok. His fluency, vocab and pronunciation are quite good, but I noticed in a post-match interview yesterday he just didn't put verbs in the past tense (though referring to the match) and this is important. Till recently I was an EFL teacher for 16 years and it's not hard to learn the main verbs in the past simple in English, there's no conjugation to learn. But yeah, I do appreciate it's harder for an Arabic speaker to learn English than a European language speaker, absolutely. I like Trez, btw, he's a good lad! : > "Wayne Rooney", hahaha! Edited April 5, 2021 by robby b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 i dont think anyone will convince me he has any high level talent, but he does seem to pop up with some important goals for us. What i will say though, is his attitude and work ethic is first class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Imagine if Ross Barkley had his work rate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 If he’s made available in the Summer, I wonder who will come in for him. From the outside looking in, he comes across as a goalscoring wide player with a great work ethic. I’ve no doubt he would be very decent in a lot of the top leagues across Europe. I guess what I’m trying to say is, he has a value attached to him? If we manage to get anywhere near back what we paid for him, one might argue Trez has been a great signing for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 When you look at the squads the teams above us have, I'm not against keeping trez and el ghazi. But we need at least one more winger so they become 4th/5th choice options and not immediate back up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Why would we want to sell a player that always gives 100%. We need more players with his attitude not less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: What did the celebration mean? I thought it was “don’t tell me to shoot myself” ... but might be wrong? I assumed it was meant to be a message against gun violence: he does the gun sign and then the ‘shush’. Am I reading too much into this?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) Two goals for Trézéguet. Edited April 5, 2021 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 45 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: If he’s made available in the Summer, I wonder who will come in for him. From the outside looking in, he comes across as a goalscoring wide player with a great work ethic. I’ve no doubt he would be very decent in a lot of the top leagues across Europe. I guess what I’m trying to say is, he has a value attached to him? If we manage to get anywhere near back what we paid for him, one might argue Trez has been a great signing for us! i can see him going to Turkey or similar tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, PaulC said: Why would we want to sell a player that always gives 100%. We need more players with his attitude not less. Because in reality he isnt very good at all. I dont deny he scores some important goals, and his attitude and work ethic is first class, but he's simply not a very good player. What we actually need is players with his work ethic AND the ability to play football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: Because in reality he isnt very good at all. I dont deny he scores some important goals, and his attitude and work ethic is first class, but he's simply not a very good player. What we actually need is players with his work ethic AND the ability to play football. I think hes better than people make out on here and I'd rather have someone with his work ethic than a technical play with no drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted April 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, PaulC said: I think hes better than people make out on here and I'd rather have someone with his work ethic than a technical play with no drive. we dont want either, why is your argument towards the lowest common denominator? We need to be getting payers with both attributes. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaVilla said: we dont want either, why is your argument towards the lowest common denominator? We need to be getting payers with both attributes. As I said he as not as bad technically as people make out. The technique for both goals was very good and the other shot he had. Yes he needs to do it more but I think he shouldn't be a player we are looking to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, MaVilla said: we dont want either, why is your argument towards the lowest common denominator? We need to be getting payers with both attributes. I'd argue that before his injury he was giving 7/10 performances that with better finishing from others and himself he would be on around 10 goal involvements. Since his injury he's regressed (until yesterday) to last season levels of comedy. For most of this season his performances have reminded me of Park Ji Sung solid and reliable. If he goes back to Park Ji Sung solid and reliable performance levels I'd keep him if we can't improve on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: As I said he as not as bad technically as people make out. The technique for both goals was very good and the other shot he had. Yes he needs to do it more but I think he shouldn't be a player we are looking to sell. Looking at his history he was close to a move to Inter once so he’s not as shit as people make out. He definitely has ability but for the most part it’s not good enough for where we want to be or even for the league on a consistent basis. But for all his limitations in ability he still always gives a shift and his movement is very good so have to give him credit for that. If he could be as composed as he was yesterday for his goals he could be close to double figures this season with some of the chances he has had. But to be fair he gets those chances because of his desire and running off the ball to get in to those goal scoring positions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 As I see it we won't be signing 2 wingers this summer, but we also will sign one for sure. So if you're letting a winger go then Trez for me should be one of two the we keep. His attitude, work rate, and ability the perform when the team needs it most set him above El-Ghazi for sure and on a par with Traore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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