KentVillan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah. Don't get me wrong I still think Mings is a good centre back but Konsa has been the best so far this season (I know it's a small sample size) If he keeps it up he's going to have been an excellent signing. I wouldn't have predicted when he signed for us that he'd become so good I wouldn't underestimate how important Mings's leadership and communication skills are in that back 4. Very hard for us as fans to know exactly how much impact Mings is having, but my guess is he takes a lot of the tactical/positional load off Konsa's shoulders, which helps Konsa stand out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Talking about Konsa being better than Mings is missing the point IMO - they're a CB partnership and they should be viewed and judged as such. It's quite a classic one too, with a larger physical guy and one who cleans up afterward. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 hours ago, KentVillan said: I wouldn't underestimate how important Mings's leadership and communication skills are in that back 4. Very hard for us as fans to know exactly how much impact Mings is having, but my guess is he takes a lot of the tactical/positional load off Konsa's shoulders, which helps Konsa stand out. Completely agree. It's a very effective partnership 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, lexicon said: Talking about Konsa being better than Mings is missing the point IMO - they're a CB partnership and they should be viewed and judged as such. It's quite a classic one too, with a larger physical guy and one who cleans up afterward. And who is the larger physical guy in your eyes? Konsa look just as strong and good in the air as Mings to me if not stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: And who is the larger physical guy in your eyes? Konsa look just as strong and good in the air as Mings to me if not stronger. Konsa weakness is in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Zatman said: Konsa weakness is in the air I haven't really had that impression since lockdown. Whoscored has him at 12 Aerials won 4 lost so far this season, Mings is almost identical but slightly better at 13 won 4 lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: And who is the larger physical guy in your eyes? Konsa look just as strong and good in the air as Mings to me if not stronger. The one that's 5 inches taller is the larger of the two. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, Sam-AVFC said: The one that's 5 inches taller is the larger of the two. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Sam-AVFC said: The one that's 5 inches taller is the larger of the two. Being taller doesn't automatically make you stronger or better in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sam-AVFC Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Being taller doesn't automatically make you stronger or better in the air. No shit. Being 5 inches taller does tend to make you larger though. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Ezri looks strong in the air to me. I don't see it being a weakness. It was with Axel, not so much with Ezri. Ezri is complete imo Ezri is better than Mings to me. But it's all about opinions, isn't it Edited October 8, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 7 hours ago, lexicon said: Talking about Konsa being better than Mings is missing the point IMO - they're a CB partnership and they should be viewed and judged as such. It's quite a classic one too, with a larger physical guy and one who cleans up afterward. I agree. its like Evans and McNaught......both centre backs but different approaches and different effects on the team. I have always liked Mings, had a bit of an indifferent time after he was called up, which he is aware of and dealt with it......I really like Konsa too, has improved no ends on his resolute play, starting to blossom in to a thinking mans defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 8, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, TRO said: ts like Evans and McNaught......both centre backs but different approaches and different effects on the team. Yeah. You could hear Tyrone constantly talking (shouting) throughout the game, organising and encouraging and Ezri is quieter, and the pair are working really well together. It's really good to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Konsa weakness is in the air I think it is something that can be improved over time with practice and perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think it is something that can be improved over time with practice and perseverance still only 22...much to come from this boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Never been a fan of using a Villa player as a stick to beat up another Villa player. Happy to see most here understand the partnership Mings and Konsa have developed. Take one away and other will surely take a step back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 At the very minimum our opponents think konsa is the worse of the 2. As mitrovic and firminho were on him pretty much eh entire nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I've just done that BBC select the XI to face Wales tonight and all I could think when selecting was 'id rather konsa', 'id rather konsa' when going through the list of defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Konsa barks out instructions too. They are both very vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 7 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think it is something that can be improved over time with practice and perseverance of course, when he joined he had other weaknesses which he developed. Im a huge fan and I hope he develops that part of his game as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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