dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 22:03, Dr_Pangloss said: I think better than Mings to be honest. Very different players. They complement each other superbly. Mind I stand by Tuanzebe being better than Mings, so why not Konsa. And I think Mings is a wonderful sweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 mings form has dipped slightly but to say konsa is better simply isn't true (yet) wait until he's got some experience under his belt and played vs some top strikers one things for sure with mings, engels and konsa we've potential to return back to the days of MONs first season with mellberg. laursen and cahill on the bench, targett / bouma on the left, then you throw in heaton as a quality keeper and nakamba being solid in front of them we should have a solid defence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: mings form has dipped slightly but to say konsa is better simply isn't true (yet) wait until he's got some experience under his belt and played vs some top strikers one things for sure with mings, engels and konsa we've potential to return back to the days of MONs first season with mellberg. laursen and cahill on the bench, targett / bouma on the left, then you throw in heaton as a quality keeper and nakamba being solid in front of them we should have a solid defence We have a solid back 5 and a couple of decent options at centre half. We will continue to struggle in our defensive phase for a while I think, I don't think it will ever be a strong point for Smith but we will get better the more they all play together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 genuinely think this guy is a diamond and from his comments he wants to learn. From a small example but at the RB Leipzig game he was all over Terry looking for advice and that can only help the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 This is brilliant He's a smart, confident young footballer with all the talent to go on and play for England, from what I have seen. He doesn't give stock answers in interviews either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Bottom line is I thought United bullied him, and I don't think they would have been able to bully Engels in the same way, so for me he's not one of our starting CB's when everyone is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 He did well IMO, one crazy moment in the second half where he was shielding the ball in his own box but other than that put in a good performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I like him. Both him and Mings can be a bit more decisive in clearing the ball, but overall he's done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Bottom line is I thought United bullied him, and I don't think they would have been able to bully Engels in the same way, so for me he's not one of our starting CB's when everyone is fit. I can't shake the time where Kodjia bullied him last season from my head. He's still really raw and doesn't yet have the street smarts to deal with certain strikers but I think he's going to be a very fine CB. Still would have Engels in for now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Didn't particularly notice him at any point of the game but Konsa got a 5.9 rating from whoscored at full time, the lowest of all the players on the pitch. Judging from just that, I think bringing Engels back next week is probably the better option. Edited December 1, 2019 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Bottom line is I thought United bullied him, and I don't think they would have been able to bully Engels in the same way, so for me he's not one of our starting CB's when everyone is fit. Of course not - he has held his own the games he has played and hasn't let us down - but thats it - He doesn't at this point, look anything that special to me - Engels starts next game IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I only watched the second half on a stream today but I thought he looked very good. I’m a big fan of his anyway, I think Engels will struggle to get back in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I only watched the second half on a stream today but I thought he looked very good. I’m a big fan of his anyway, I think Engels will struggle to get back in the team Same here I was particularly annoyed at that point in the second half when he stood still for like 2 minutes until I hit the F5 button 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Best on the ball of all our CBs. Always looks in control, nice to see some left foot knocks around as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He did well IMO, one crazy moment in the second half where he was shielding the ball in his own box but other than that put in a good performance. Well, if you don't count their first goal as his fault... I like him, but he's not great yet. None of our CB's are, mind you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Didn't particularly notice him at any point of the game but Konsa got a 5.9 rating from whoscored at full time, the lowest of all the players on the pitch. Judging from just that, I think bringing Engels back next week is probably the better option. We really shouldn't pick our team based on Whoscored ratings. Tough afternoon for him against a quality front 3, but he did ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I was rewatching the hightligths this morning and I loved his reaction to Jack's goal. Seemed very genuine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 23:27, AVTuco said: Well, if you don't count their first goal as his fault... I like him, but he's not great yet. None of our CB's are, mind you. I think he's been very good. You're talking about a young lad with his senior experience covering the championship and Griffin Park. We all know how much a young player can develop when he's exposed to first team football and thrown into the deep end. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he within 3 years becomes one of the hottest English CB names in football. Ofc. he might not make it, but there's every reason to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I think he's been very good. You're talking about a young lad with his senior experience covering the championship and Griffin Park. We all know how much a young player can develop when he's exposed to first team football and thrown into the deep end. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he within 3 years becomes one of the hottest English CB names in football. Ofc. he might not make it, but there's every reason to be positive. Yes, there is every reason to be positive. Like I said, I like him, and I want to add that expect him to be great one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hit and miss. There's certainly talent there but his positioning needs work and he has a tendency to hoof it. Would start Engels over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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