AVFCDAN Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, tomav84 said: why we are shelling out millions on a 33 year old keeper when we have 2 decent ones already is beyond me. yeah, in deano we trust blah blah blah but i really cannot get on board with this one I read a 4 page thread on him on a Burnley message board and they couldn't speak highly enough of him, seemed like even at 10 million we were getting a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 As others have mentioned, if it frees up funds to pursue better targets at RW and ST I think this is a smart signing. If we can also get £5m for Kalinic as well that will be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) If it means we can spend money on other players then signing heaton for ~ one third of what it would cost to sign Butland is a no brainer. Heaton could be our keeper for ~3 seasons and that would give us plenty of time to grow into a midtable premier league team. Then we would have the funds to buy a new/better keeper. Edited July 10, 2019 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Seems like that that new Birmingham Mail journalist is the only one to have reported this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Better option than Butland all day long for me. Think this is a little coup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap of Steel Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Personally would be delighted with this. Yes Butland would be good, but can't keep spending £20m + on players. Think this would be a good deal in today's market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 10 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: My main issue is about value. There's an argument there's not much between them other than age. So Heaton £7m for three years and then released like most keepers in the later 30s. Minus £7m Or Butland £25m for three years and then sold for likely same amount, possibly more. Break even. Better still he stays even longer and we have some stability in that position for the first time in years. Add in Heaton is only likely to get worse, Butland has more chance of improving and the team and financial situation make a Butland purchase the clearer choice. If Heaton starts creeping up to £10m and you could barter Stoke down to £20m for Butland then it really becomes a no brainer. Nothing against Heaton but the value and long term benefit points to Butland. If Butland becomes a flop which i think he would then his value would absolutely plummet and we would be stuck with him for 5 years. If Heaton becomes a flop he is gone in just 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: why we are shelling out millions on a 33 year old keeper when we have 2 decent ones already is beyond me. yeah, in deano we trust blah blah blah but i really cannot get on board with this one Because we don’t have two decent ones. We’ve got a keeper who did well for half a season under Smith but has consistently deemed not good enough at villa and is totally unproven at any top level and, imo, isn’t good enough to be a premier league number 1. And we’ve got a keeper who might have been good enough but for whatever reason appears it isn’t working out for and may well be gone before the season starts. Said it before, GK CB CM and CF Get those positions right and you’ve got a chance. Heading into the season with Jed Steer as our number 1 isn’t, imo, getting one of those positions right. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Because we don’t have two decent ones. We’ve got a keeper who did well for half a season under Smith but has consistently deemed not good enough at villa and is totally unproven at any top level and, imo, isn’t good enough to be a premier league number 1. And we’ve got a keeper who might have been good enough but for whatever reason appears it isn’t working out for and may well be gone before the season starts. Said it before, GK CB CM and CF Get those positions right and you’ve got a chance. Heading into the season with Jed Steer as our number 1 isn’t, imo, getting one of those positions right. i think that's where most are divided. the only logical explanation is that there's something up with kalinic. either has the hump about being dropped or homesick or something else. personally ability wise i think he's good enough for the top flight. he's got the experience on big stages so i dont get why he's being potentially shipped out. i'd sooner keep him and use the money towards another winger/CB/striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarethRDR Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) Anybody thinking that half a decent season and some penalty heroics automatically means Steer > Heaton needs their head examined. Would be a bargain pick-up, has experience and ability in spades. Bring him in, keep Steer on as understudy (he's absolutely earned the right not be be shipped out on loan anymore, for sure). Edited July 10, 2019 by GarethRDR 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Hope we look elsewhere. Not Butland thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i think that's where most are divided. the only logical explanation is that there's something up with kalinic. either has the hump about being dropped or homesick or something else. personally ability wise i think he's good enough for the top flight. he's got the experience on big stages so i dont get why he's being potentially shipped out. i'd sooner keep him and use the money towards another winger/CB/striker That is totally consistent with what SteveO is saying. It's just not working out, either because he has the hump and hence bad attitude, is homesick, or something else affecting him. They're deep problems that we don't have the time or patience to resolve. I thought he'd be a great signing, and still think he'd be competent in the Premier League if everything was right with him but they don't appear to be and we can't take that chance. Heaton has always struck me a very decent premier league keeper who does most of the basics absolutely right and is a very good shot stopper, he'd be an excellent signing, 3 years of good keeping is massively valuable to us, resale value or not by the end of his contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i think that's where most are divided. the only logical explanation is that there's something up with kalinic. either has the hump about being dropped or homesick or something else. personally ability wise i think he's good enough for the top flight. he's got the experience on big stages so i dont get why he's being potentially shipped out. i'd sooner keep him and use the money towards another winger/CB/striker I’ve said before I think there’s more chance of Kalinic starting the season as our number 1 than Steer, but that we’d most likely sign a new number one. I think given all the links to keepers that that must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 So Dyche has said he’s there with them in Portugal. Do they have a Belfry in Portugal too @Delphinho123? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted July 10, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 The Heaton link has seemingly been completely dismissed by Sean Dyche who says there has been no contact. Another fine Gregg Evans exclusive! The thread will be re-opened should the need arise. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Thought I’d give this thread a nudge as was one of the big stories on sky sports news today. Think it should be easy to land this guy for a reasonable price. I guess we have bid around 3 million for him and Burnley have laughed that off, maybe saying something like maybe 8m to 10m or something but all Heaton has to say is I’m 33 this is my last big chance please let me leave plea in public and we go back in with a 5millon offer and they are kinda forced to accept it on a morale level, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Why has it been unlocked? I thought this was dead, for now at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Qwpzxjor1 said: Why has it been unlocked? I thought this was dead, for now at least? Allegedly we had a bid today rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Helllooo. We'll he's ahead of Hart in the pecking order so something's afoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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