sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Sulberto21 said: Heaton is very very good borderline world class. If he had inho or erto in his name more people would be excited. A 33 y.o with 93 minutes of international football to his name and 4 seasons of top flight football in his career. One of which he missed 34 games in. Let's not go ott here. Sure people have followed him much closer than I have but borderline world class? And I don't rate him that high because I am racist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sne said: A 33 y.o with 93 minutes of international football to his name and 4 seasons of top flight football in his career. One of which he missed 34 games in. Let's not go ott here. Sure people have followed him much closer than I have but borderline world class? And I don't rate him that high because I am racist? Erm what’s racism got to do anything with my post? ... ott reaction me thinks. Edited July 31, 2019 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Sulberto21 said: Erm what’s racism got to do anything with my post? ... ott reaction me thinks. If he had inho or erto in his name. What did you mean by that then? Sorry if I misunderstood, I took it as you dismissing peoples opinions of him because of him not having a fancy foreign name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: If you were honestly banging the drum about signing Heaton 10 years ago, when he was plying his trade in the lower leagues and we were challenging for CL football, then more power to you. As it happens, I don't believe you. No worries cause that's not what I said either. I enjoy it when we sign any young up and coming player, especially when they are English, cause that's a part of what I enjoy most with football. There's a difference between that and banging the drum. We could easily have signed Heaton 10 years ago for potential, but like I said it's good to know you can speak for others. If putting words into people's mouths and making stuff up is your thing, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, sne said: If he had inho or erto in his name. What did you mean by that then? Sorry if I misunderstood, I took it as you dismissing peoples opinions of him because of him not having a fancy foreign name? Not quite calling you a racist though is it? Just saying that fans tend to overrate players from Brazil etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, KentVillan said: Not quite calling you a racist though is it? Just saying that fans tend to overrate players from Brazil etc. Sure, racist is the wrong word. Just grates me that people can't fathom that people actually watch football not played in England and may have actually watched foreign players before they set their foot in England. It's the fancy name we are swayed by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaveAV1 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, sne said: Sure, racist is the wrong word. Just grates me that people can't fathom that people actually watch football not played in England and may have actually watched foreign players before they set their foot in England. It's the fancy name we are swayed by... Anyway, back to Thomset Heatiniho.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoughboroughLion Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) £8m is peanuts - and anyway it's not my money. Does he improve the starting 11? Yes Will he provide competition for places? Yes Is it that risky? Not really Will he be good for another couple of seasons, until (hopefully) we do another rebuild to push into to top tier? Yes Is this the last question? Yes Welcome Tommy, be a hero Edited July 31, 2019 by LoughboroughLion 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 @LoughboroughLion : I appreciate your common sense. But... ...your avatar haunts me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I have a good feeling about this one, a good Friedel-feeling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 31, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: No worries cause that's not what I said either. I enjoy it when we sign any young up and coming player, especially when they are English, cause that's a part of what I enjoy most with football. There's a difference between that and banging the drum. We could easily have signed Heaton 10 years ago for potential, but like I said it's good to know you can speak for others. If putting words into people's mouths and making stuff up is your thing, feel free. You should be happy. When playing in PL you need good exp. keeper. Its most important position on the pitch.Biggest signing of this window. PL captain - its huge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Warmed to this signing after a days careful thought and deliberation £8 mill is nothing in today’s market and he is experienced in PL which I now realise is crucial in our current position as a newly promoted club.... he can always be upgraded next summer if needs be/right keeper becomes available... I have this wild idea that we will sign Benítez next summer on a free based on a made up conversation I’ve envisaged between us and his agent, his (supposedly) cryptic tweet and a wild imagination.. The fact is we can negotiate with him from January if he doesn’t leave this summer or sign a new deal. All based on nothing than me hating my job and daydreaming all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) How old were Given when we signed him? 35-36ish? Edited July 31, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, sne said: If he had inho or erto in his name. What did you mean by that then? Sorry if I misunderstood, I took it as you dismissing peoples opinions of him because of him not having a fancy foreign name? The point I'm making is some fans are unhappy because Heaton doesn't have a fancy foreign name so he probably isn’t good enough based on the fact we’ve been linked with two very good foreign keepers recently. One is injury prone and the other is probably too expensive (FFP) for us. The way to look at this signing is this : Butland is imo overpriced and obviously it is for our recruitment team. Therefore a solid dependable experienced gifted keeper is available for £8million and will most likely get 8-12 points for us this season and probably next. In the meantime we can continue to look for a younger more expensive keeper for next season. Yes Steer has done well for us. But imo he is a Stuart Taylor a Mike Oakes he is a number 2. Heaton is a clear number 1. Our younger players will benefit greatly. If i was playing CB for Villa id rather see Heaton over Steer. For whatever reason the other keepers haven’t materialised so Heaton is a good alternative. Solid and Dependable will be good for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) The speculation tag has gone! Hooray! Edited July 31, 2019 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted July 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: The speculation tag has gone! Hooray! Yeah, why has that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just seen the speculation tag disappear but no official confirmation anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: The speculation tag has gone! Hooray! 1 minute ago, Lichfield Dean said: Yeah, why has that happened? i think it's being swapped for "having a medical" tag. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Seems like a good signing, and of an age to take us forward for a couple of years until we are pushing top 4, and will need a younger, better replacement. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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