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5 minutes ago, rhyscartwright_avfc said:

I voted against changing. Not because I'm necessarily in favour of PPC but I feel if we got rid, the QB points would then massively outweigh every other position and would basically decide the matchups. Don't think you can change 1 without the other, and if you did change both it would then leave DEF points being the outlier. 

So basically I feel it needs big reform or leave it alone.

Any thoughts?

I actually agree to be fair . 

If anything we should be pumping up the receivers points.

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Final vote is down to me then... if I vote in favour of keeping PPC then its a 6-6 tie. 

What other reform options are there? As @rhyscartwright_avfc says it would leave the games being decided by QB's and DEF

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Yeah something needs to change to balance the positions. Whether it be remove points or increase bonuses on WRs & TEs. 

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1 hour ago, Xela said:

Final vote is down to me then... if I vote in favour of keeping PPC then its a 6-6 tie. 

What other reform options are there? As @rhyscartwright_avfc says it would leave the games being decided by QB's and DEF

7-7 actually...well it should be, still some no-votes

 

Tubby and Beastmix to vote, Brumerican has gone for change. **** Remoaner ;)

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3 hours ago, rjw63 said:

7-7 actually...well it should be, still some no-votes

 

Tubby and Beastmix to vote, Brumerican has gone for change. **** Remoaner ;)

I'm not fussed either way . I'd rather have WR's get 2 points per catch and TE's 3 points.

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20 hours ago, rjw63 said:

 

 

 Brumerican has gone for change. **** Remoaner ;)

Erm...So did 6 other people ?

And we would be leavers surely ?

I'd love to have seen the post before you edited .😀

FWIW we have 5 votes to stay the same  and 6 votes to change it . Inexplicably , @Xela has chosen to talk about voting but can't seem to cross that final hurdle of actually doing it.

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2 hours ago, Brumerican said:

Erm...So did 6 other people ?

And we would be leavers surely ?

I'd love to have seen the post before you edited .😀

FWIW we have 5 votes to stay the same  and 6 votes to change it . Inexplicably , @Xela has chosen to talk about voting but can't seem to cross that final hurdle of actually doing it.

Prolly just a typo, can't remember anything else.

Xela is too busy fapping.

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25 minutes ago, rjw63 said:

Xela is too busy fapping.

All about priorities. 

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Finally voted (I had forgot to be honest!)

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Work for the Commish then

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On 06/08/2019 at 18:30, rhyscartwright_avfc said:

I voted against changing. Not because I'm necessarily in favour of PPC but I feel if we got rid, the QB points would then massively outweigh every other position and would basically decide the matchups. Don't think you can change 1 without the other, and if you did change both it would then leave DEF points being the outlier. 

So basically I feel it needs big reform or leave it alone.

Any thoughts?

I'm with Rhys here, would be good to look at all of it and try to get closer games from a more even scoring system.

No single position should dominate i.e. no 100 point QBs or 50 points RBs.

Any ideas from other leagues of what helps this work?

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What you all think?

Event Points
Passing Touchdown 4 points per
Passing Yards .04 points per yard
Passing 2 Point Conversion 1 points per
Interception -1 points per
Rushing Touchdown 6 points per
Rushing Yards .1 points per yard
Rushing 2 Point Conversion 2 points per
Reception 1 point per
Receiving Touchdown 6 points per
Receiving Yards .1 points per yard
Receiving 2 Point Conversion 2 points per
Kickoff Return Touchdown 6 points per
Punt Return Touchdown 6 points per
Fumble Lost on Offense -1 points per
Offensive Fumble Recovery Touchdown 6 points per

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There's also the Yahoo default values:

ield goal 0-19 yards: 3 points
Field goal 20-29 yards: 3 points
Field goal 30-39 yards: 3 points
Field goal 40-49 yards: 4 points
Field goal 50+ yards: 5 points
Each extra point:

1 point

 

Each reception: 0.5 points
Every 25 passing yards: 1 point
Each passing TD: 4 points
Each interception thrown: -1 points
Every 10 rushing yards: 1 point
Each rushing TD: 6 points
Every 10 receiving yards: 1 point
Each receiving TD: 6 points
Each return TD: 6 points
Each Off Fum Ret TD: 6 points
Each 2-point conversion: 2 points
Each fumble lost: -2 points

 

Each sack: 1 point
Each interception: 2 points
Each fumble recovery: 2 points
Each touchdown: 6 points
Each safety: 2 points
Each blocked kick: 2 points
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns: 6 points
Shutout: 10 points
1-6 points allowed: 7 points
7-13 points allowed: 4 points
14-20 points allowed: 1 point
21-27 points allowed: 0 points
28-34 points allowed: -1 points
35+ points allowed: -4 points
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Well we hit the 8 votes and now have 4 weeks to sort it out .

Maybe going to half a point per carry for RB's would be a soft Brexit solution ?

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On 07/08/2019 at 00:23, Brumerican said:

I'm not fussed either way . I'd rather have WR's get 2 points per catch and TE's 3 points.

Like this idea.

Do we just want to nerf RB's or bump the stats of all the other positions?  I liked the points per rush on RB's because it added more value to backs on the waiver wire later in the season when you need to find something off the scrap heap to remain competitive if your stud RB goes down injured.  Happy to apply this same standard to WR's, TE's etc whilst perhaps nerfing the bonuses and scoring on QB's a tad?

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1 minute ago, kkr said:

Like this idea.

Do we just want to nerf RB's or bump the stats of all the other positions?  I liked the points per rush on RB's because it added more value to backs on the waiver wire later in the season when you need to find something off the scrap heap to remain competitive if your stud RB goes down injured.  Happy to apply this same standard to WR's, TE's etc whilst perhaps nerfing the bonuses and scoring on QB's a tad?

This.

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Let's make it a pure stats game for those with a real NFL interest and ignore those who just do it for fun without understanding it properly like @rjw63 n little old me 

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On 07/08/2019 at 22:07, StefanAVFC said:

There's also the Yahoo default values:

ield goal 0-19 yards: 3 points
Field goal 20-29 yards: 3 points
Field goal 30-39 yards: 3 points
Field goal 40-49 yards: 4 points
Field goal 50+ yards: 5 points
Each extra point:

1 point

 

Each reception: 0.5 points
Every 25 passing yards: 1 point
Each passing TD: 4 points
Each interception thrown: -1 points
Every 10 rushing yards: 1 point
Each rushing TD: 6 points
Every 10 receiving yards: 1 point
Each receiving TD: 6 points
Each return TD: 6 points
Each Off Fum Ret TD: 6 points
Each 2-point conversion: 2 points
Each fumble lost: -2 points

 

Each sack: 1 point
Each interception: 2 points
Each fumble recovery: 2 points
Each touchdown: 6 points
Each safety: 2 points
Each blocked kick: 2 points
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns: 6 points
Shutout: 10 points
1-6 points allowed: 7 points
7-13 points allowed: 4 points
14-20 points allowed: 1 point
21-27 points allowed: 0 points
28-34 points allowed: -1 points
35+ points allowed: -4 points

I like this scoring system. 

RB's no longer handed points per carry but for net yardage.  WR's have to contribute on yards too.

The only changes I would make would be:

  1. to scrap the WR's points per reception and put them at 1 point per 20 yards plus a bonus at 100, 200, 300 etc.
  2. Align QB TD's to 6 points the same as every other position
  3. RB's to get a bonus per 100, 200, 300 etc.

Defensive scoring looks spot on imo

 

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16 hours ago, kkr said:

Like this idea.

Do we just want to nerf RB's or bump the stats of all the other positions?  I liked the points per rush on RB's because it added more value to backs on the waiver wire later in the season when you need to find something off the scrap heap to remain competitive if your stud RB goes down injured.  Happy to apply this same standard to WR's, TE's etc whilst perhaps nerfing the bonuses and scoring on QB's a tad?

Whilst your point is valid on late season gems, the issue for me with that system is that we are a 14 team league and the studs are no greater than 10-20.  If you have two you can win a game by RBs alone at times.

Points for yardage would be a better reflection of contribution imo although I appreciate 1 run for 90 yards would be the same as 20 runs for 90 yards.

Sure we can come to some compromise that evens it out but I wouldn't welcome making it so we all have 500 point games by adjusting the WRs and TEs up

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14 hours ago, LancsVillan said:

Let's make it a pure stats game for those with a real NFL interest and ignore those who just do it for fun without understanding it properly like @rjw63 n little old me 

What's there not to understand? Instead of getting a point per carry you now (potentially) no longer get a point?

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