jim Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 15-17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 We were a long way behind a lot of these teams , the 12 we’ve signed have improved us , no doubt , but I don’t know if we’ve improved enough for top half. i think we are better than Norwich , Sheff U , Burnley , Newcastle ... and possibly Brighton and Southampton , so that’s really our challenge to come above all of them. i think then we move to the Fat Sam stage and tweak with 2 or 3 big signings next season and reel in a few more clubs and challenge for top half but who knows , tbf I’ve not seen a lot of our new signings play before , we could have unearthed some absolute gems I’ll be happy with a decent performance today v Spuds and keeping the score respectable... Bournemouth will be a more realistic bench mark on our survival chances ... though obviously I’m not suggesting we judge them after 2 games 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: We were a long way behind a lot of these teams , the 12 we’ve signed have improved us , no doubt , but I don’t know if we’ve improved enough for top half. i think we are better than Norwich , Sheff U , Burnley , Newcastle ... and possibly Brighton and Southampton , so that’s really our challenge to come above all of them. i think then we move to the Fat Sam stage and tweak with 2 or 3 big signings next season and reel in a few more clubs and challenge for top half but who knows , tbf I’ve not seen a lot of our new signings play before , we could have unearthed some absolute gems I’ll be happy with a decent performance today v Spuds and keeping the score respectable... Bournemouth will be a more realistic bench mark on our survival chances ... though obviously I’m not suggesting we judge them after 2 games Probably the first @tonyh29 post I’ve ever agreed with word for word. Only took 10k posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, villaglint said: Probably the first @tonyh29 post I’ve ever agreed with word for word. Only took 10k posts! I’ve got over 22k of posts you must be confusing me with someone else 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I think we are better than Norwich , Sheff U , Burnley , Newcastle ... and possibly Brighton and Southampton , so that’s really our challenge to come above all of them. Add Palace and Bournemouth into that list, Watford at a stretch and I’d say they’re the ones we might have a chance of finishing above. I doubt we’ll be better than all of them, but hopefully at least 3 of them. Newcastle, Palace and Burnley to go down, Villa 15th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, blandy said: Add Palace and Bournemouth into that list, Watford at a stretch and I’d say they’re the ones we might have a chance of finishing above. I doubt we’ll be better than all of them, but hopefully at least 3 of them. Newcastle, Palace and Burnley to go down, Villa 15th. i cant see Norwich or Sheff U surviving ... let’s hope Newcastle do the honourable thing and deprive Burnley and Palace of that last spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2019 Hoping for better of course, but I think 15th is still a good guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Norwich finished eighteen points above us last season, when Smith was appointed they were only three points ahead of us, if we finish above them this season it will mean we will have had to have had one hell of a really great transfer window. Wouldn't rule us out finishing much higher, but would probably take seventeenth now and League Cup and FA Cup double. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: 9th “To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If not pretend you are.” – Muhammad Ali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, tonyh29 said: We were a long way behind a lot of these teams , the 12 we’ve signed have improved us , no doubt , but I don’t know if we’ve improved enough for top half. i think we are better than Norwich , Sheff U , Burnley , Newcastle ... and possibly Brighton and Southampton , so that’s really our challenge to come above all of them. i think then we move to the Fat Sam stage and tweak with 2 or 3 big signings next season and reel in a few more clubs and challenge for top half but who knows , tbf I’ve not seen a lot of our new signings play before , we could have unearthed some absolute gems I’ll be happy with a decent performance today v Spuds and keeping the score respectable... Bournemouth will be a more realistic bench mark on our survival chances ... though obviously I’m not suggesting we judge them after 2 games I'm not sure the 12 are all an improvement. 3 obviously we had last year. Is wesley an improvement over tammy? Engels or konsa and improvement of tuanzabe? And you need to take into account the fact that weve squeezed in 12 new players, settling will have an impact. I've enjoyed the window but we cant put blinkers on, we finished 5th in the championship. This will be very tough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) I think we are short one forward—someone who could have played on the wing or up front and got goals. I think this could be a big problem. I hope Kodj and Davis step up a level, but we have to be realistic here too—the jury is out. It just goes to show how much of a rebuild we needed this summer that we sign this many players and still could do with 1/2 more. I don't have much faith today. I think we'll have Hourihane at DM, and as much as I like him as a player, he was barely good enough in the Championship in that position. He will cost us goals and we're playing the Champions League Finalists. He's not quick enough to play there and we're not good enough to pin Spurs back and dominate possession to compensate. I fear a drubbing. I hope to be surprised though. I'm excited, but I think managed expectations is clearly the way to go. I expect we'll be in a battle in the lower half of the table. I hope for better! Just as long as we stay up and get a chance to build more next year. Edited August 10, 2019 by praisedmambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 hours ago, AVTuco said: Hoping for better of course, but I think 15th is still a good guess. Still 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Based on today’s performance I think around 12th is achievable, we competed with spurs and there will be easier matches, in confident we have a decent enough team to compete in all games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 13 hours ago, useless said: Norwich finished eighteen points above us last season, when Smith was appointed they were only three points ahead of us, if we finish above them this season it will mean we will have had to have had one hell of a really great transfer window. Wouldn't rule us out finishing much higher, but would probably take seventeenth now and League Cup and FA Cup double. You would 'probably' take Premier League survival *and* winning a cup double!! Personally, I would be pleased with 17th alone. And I'm very far from confident we will achieve even that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2019 Definitely enough in that game to call ourselves premier league. Think we've definitely got the mentality to stay up, lower mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2019 We've enough about us to stay up. It'll be a struggle though. We're far from the finished article and we're still a flawed side, predominately have concerns we'll struggle to score (saying that, I can also see is handing out a good hiding to someone when everything comes together for us. Equally we're going to suffer a spanking or 2). 15th is looking likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 I initially thought around 17th with a possibility of 18th, now I think 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Too early to call for me. Attackers worried me today as they looked poor & i fear we may have too many "sitter missers" to avoid a relegation scrap but will wait & see whether they can improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 The Villa Talk crowd wisdom is saying 15th and I think that sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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