tonyh29 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, turvontour said: We've seen how many points keepers can cost you in both Gollini and Nyland in recent years. Steer will be absolutely battered by shots and crosses in the PL, and we dont want to learn a third of the way through the season that he's not quite good enough. exactly this I don't know if Butland is the answer but if we don't sign a new number 1 then we will be in a lot of trouble next season , if Butland is the answer than pay the £25m and scrimp somewhere else 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Needs to sack his agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Just now, rodders0223 said: Needs to sack his agent. Sure it's Stoke who choose how much he costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Needs to sack his agent. He already did last season I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, praisedmambo said: Sure it's Stoke who choose how much he costs. Not really - this will be two seasons running he has been priced out of a move due to a truly ludicrous valuation. Last year it was £35m I believe. A good agent gets his client the move. He burns bridges and royally pisses the club off but he gets the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Heaton isn't the keeper he was, he's on a decline. Kalinic and Nyland aren't trusted, Sarkic is on loan. We need a dominant keeper for the Premier League, Steer is a decent back up in my opinion. Butland will leave Stoke, so Villa "ending official interest" is a kick up the backside for them. He played very well for Burnley when he came back in the team over xmas last year. Stats back that up with them conceding hatfuls under Joe hart and then pretty much overnight went back to being very difficult to score against. Would be happy with him coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2019 butland is a step up from steer and kalinic. if we can't get him we stick with what we have IMO. i dont see heaton being better than either kalinic or steer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr_Pangloss Posted July 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2019 Heaton at £5m I don't really mind over the short run, I think he's very competent at this level. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Not really - this will be two seasons running he has been priced out of a move due to a truly ludicrous valuation. Last year it was £35m I believe. A good agent gets his client the move. He burns bridges and royally pisses the club off but he gets the move. I'm still sure it's Stoke who choose his value! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Still think this isn’t closed. I think we’ve probably told them an offer as our final offer and Stoke said no so we have leaked this. Puts pressure on Stoke as player says they want to leave and if Bournemouth have only offered 12m then are they serious/able to pay the higher fee. If not then we are the only serious player and losing out on 20m and having an unhappy player isn’t good. Also pressure on Butland to push the move his end because he could be stuck, unhappy at a club. If that is what we are doing then good move by Villa. Or we could just have another option or even a GK we otherwise wanted has now become available who wasn’t available before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, nick76 said: Still think this isn’t closed. I think we’ve probably told them an offer as our final offer and Stoke said no so we have leaked this. Puts pressure on Stoke as player says they want to leave and if Bournemouth have only offered 12m then are they serious/able to pay the higher fee. If not then we are the only serious player and losing out on 20m and having an unhappy player isn’t good. Also pressure on Butland to push the move his end because he could be stuck, unhappy at a club. If that is what we are doing then good move by Villa. Or we could just have another option or even a GK we otherwise wanted has now become available who wasn’t available before. I just don't think we are in the market for a £20m keeper. If and its a big 'if' - we sell Kalinic for around £5m - we might go £10m for a replacement. I don't ever think we were in for Butland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Heaton is an excellent goalkeeper. Think some people will be pleasantly surprised if we get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 As someone said earlier we should try for a loan, say for arguments sake £8 mill fee this summer with an obligation to buy next summer for an additional £18-20 mill ... maybe throw in one of Nyland /Davies/Greene/RHM/Bree on loan as a sweetener as can’t see any of them getting consistent game time .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole86 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Heaton is an excellent goalkeeper. Think some people will be pleasantly surprised if we get him Completely agree, would be the equivalent of the Friedel signing for me. I'd be very happy to sign Butland but if we could get Heaton for a fraction of the price then that would be my preference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Would burnley let heaton leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Would burnley let heaton leave? Contract thing I think. 1 year left and wants his retirement contract. Which is a concern of signing him, think he has eyes on huge bucks. He's got great command of his area and is solid most other department. Footwork average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Would burnley let heaton leave? Pope must be back from injury surely and kept Heaton out before injured. Hart was signed because other 2 injured start oid last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 We wouldn't have got promotion without Steer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: We wouldn't have got promotion without Steer Or Whelan. Things change. I don't think either is good enough for the Prem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 8, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: We wouldn't have got promotion without Steer ...or someone better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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