Hitzlsperger_12 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) In my opinion, Butland is not the same keeper he was before his serious injuries. There's a reason Prem teams haven't taken him away from Stoke. if we sign him, I'll support him but I think he'll lose us more points than he will save us. Edited June 18, 2019 by Hitzlsperger_12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 18, 2019 I did tell people last week this wasn’t done as some were claiming and so willing to believe. I think our interest is real, I think he will leave Stoke and I think we’ve a great chance of landing him but until it’s done it ain’t done. Surely we learned that the hard way with Joe Bryan last summer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Not sold on the idea of signing Butland for £20m or such figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonVillian Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Rather just kalinic another go with a decent defence in front of him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, jim said: £20m is peanuts though in this day and age. Not for a keeper it isnt'. £20m would make him the 7th most expensive goalkeeper of all time. Yeah, the game has moved on and if you adjusted fees for today's money he wouldn't be as high. But still. It's not peanuts for a goalkeeper (I'm not saying it isn't worth it by the way, but it's significant money) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Stevo985 said: Not for a keeper it isnt'. £20m would make him the 7th most expensive goalkeeper of all time. Yeah, the game has moved on and if you adjusted fees for today's money he wouldn't be as high. But still. It's not peanuts for a goalkeeper (I'm not saying it isn't worth it by the way, but it's significant money) Absolutely, it's just the way that the game is going now with Pickford being £25m and Allison potentially costing something like £60m. On a side note, I didn't realise Pickford was only 6'1. I say only, but for a keeper that's surprisingly short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Absolutely, it's just the way that the game is going now with Pickford being £25m and Allison potentially costing something like £60m. On a side note, I didn't realise Pickford was only 6'1. I say only, but for a keeper that's surprisingly short. I thought he was shorter. Barthez was 5.11! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Not for a keeper it isnt'. £20m would make him the 7th most expensive goalkeeper of all time. Yeah, the game has moved on and if you adjusted fees for today's money he wouldn't be as high. But still. It's not peanuts for a goalkeeper (I'm not saying it isn't worth it by the way, but it's significant money) If we sign him I'd be surprised if its for £20m for this reason, it would be a massive fee for a keeper especially one playing in the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, jacketspuds said: Absolutely, it's just the way that the game is going now with Pickford being £25m and Allison potentially costing something like £60m. On a side note, I didn't realise Pickford was only 6'1. I say only, but for a keeper that's surprisingly short. Jorge Campos raises his eyebrow at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Surely we learned that the hard way with Joe Bryan last summer? I'd say he's the one that lost out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: If we sign him I'd be surprised if its for £20m for this reason, it would be a massive fee for a keeper especially one playing in the Championship. I wouldn't be surprised if it's announced as £20m but with part of that being add-on's for example an extra X million if we stay up next season, another X million when he makes a certain amount of appearances etc. I can't imagine we'd pay £20m up front for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Butland has just become a more likely signing for us as Stoke agree to sign Adam Davies, Barnsley's captain and goalkeeper. He's a highly rated keeper and was named in the EFL team of the season recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted June 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: Butland has just become a more likely signing for us as Stoke agree to sign Adam Davies, Barnsley's captain and goalkeeper. He's a highly rated keeper and was named in the EFL team of the season recently. That’s been done a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Jorge Campos raises his eyebrow at you. Surprised you could see his eyebrows, last time I looked in his direction I was temporarily blinded for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thats2 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, jacketspuds said: Absolutely, it's just the way that the game is going now with Pickford being £25m and Allison potentially costing something like £60m. On a side note, I didn't realise Pickford was only 6'1. I say only, but for a keeper that's surprisingly short. I was surprised about Pickford too so I did some digging and found: Victor Valdes: 6’0 Keylor Navas: 6’1 Igor Akinfeev: 6’1 Iker Casillas: 6’1 Jan Oblak: 6’2 Ederson: 6’2 Hugo Lloris: 6’2 Marc ter Stegen: 6’2 Kasper Schmeichel: 6’2 Those are some of the best keepers in the world, and not all of them are considered ‘sweeper keepers’. Maybe we shouldn’t concern ourselves so much over height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Thats2 said: I was surprised about Pickford too so I did some digging and found: Victor Valdes: 6’0 Keylor Navas: 6’1 Igor Akinfeev: 6’1 Iker Casillas: 6’1 Jan Oblak: 6’2 Ederson: 6’2 Hugo Lloris: 6’2 Marc ter Stegen: 6’2 Kasper Schmeichel: 6’2 Those are some of the best keepers in the world, and not all of them are considered ‘sweeper keepers’. Maybe we shouldn’t concern ourselves so much over height. Yeh but... Brad Guzan/Height 6′ 4″ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: That’s been done a while... Davies isn't joining Stoke on July 1st to be Butland's back up, so Butland's definitely going somewhere .... Does he still live in the Birmingham area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Thats2 said: Maybe we shouldn’t concern ourselves so much over height. Is the right answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Is the right answer. Oh Stevo, do you use the "size doesn't matter" excuse often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: Oh Stevo, do you use the "size doesn't matter" excuse often? Believe me, I have nothing to worry about in that department. I'm reliably informed 3 inches is far above average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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