sne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Honestly think that loan deal to PSV would be perfect for everyone involved. Hope there is some truth to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2021 Loaning him out for me would be a strange one. We need another striker regardless if he stays or goes. If the intention is to bring in Tammy then I can see a loan deal happening, but that's a big if imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Why would we loan him out? Makes no sense to me really. That'd leave us again with Watkins & Davis, the latter of whom should be the one going out on loan IMO. Wesley either needs to be our main backup striker or else we should be selling, I've no idea why we'd do a club like PSV a random favour by handing them one of record signings for a year when we're already light up front. Of course the picture changes if we sign a Tammy or similar, but I'd be surprised if we splash out big cash on another striker with creative mids/wingers the priority. Also would hope we'll sign another full back and a proper midfield enforcer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, est1874 said: Why would we loan him out? Makes no sense to me really. That'd leave us again with Watkins & Davis, the latter of whom should be the one going out on loan IMO. Wesley either needs to be our main backup striker or else we should be selling, I've no idea why we'd do a club like PSV a random favour by handing them one of record signings for a year when we're already light up front. Of course the picture changes if we sign a Tammy or similar, but I'd be surprised if we splash out big cash on another striker with creative mids/wingers the priority. Also would hope we'll sign another full back and a proper midfield enforcer. Obviously it hinges on us buying another striker, which I'm sure we would if loaning out Wesley is the plan. Don't want either Wesley or Davis to be our second choice striker next season. For me I think Wesley needs as much football as possible to get fitter, get his confidence level up and frankly to learn to be a more skilled player. Sure he would score goals in one of the top teams in the Dutch league and then we could decide after that where to go. Having missed almost a year and a half of football I think he needs more minutes than he'll get by playing second fiddle to Watkins. And with that injury I doubt any team would be willing to gamble on buying him for a fee anywhere close to what we would ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, est1874 said: Why would we loan him out? Makes no sense to me really. That'd leave us again with Watkins & Davis, the latter of whom should be the one going out on loan IMO. Wesley either needs to be our main backup striker or else we should be selling, I've no idea why we'd do a club like PSV a random favour by handing them one of record signings for a year when we're already light up front. Of course the picture changes if we sign a Tammy or similar, but I'd be surprised if we splash out big cash on another striker with creative mids/wingers the priority. Also would hope we'll sign another full back and a proper midfield enforcer. Bottom line - perhaps those at the club don't think he is good enough. Given his goals record and recent injury -its difficult to see anyone stumping up a fee - therefore a loan seems the most likely option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 13 hours ago, romavillan said: Playing in the current Villa team and playing in the one he played in are two very different things though. Lots of the players that struggled then have since improved massively. Wes has not been given that chance yet as he had that clearing in the woods Ben Mee mash his knee up for him. Could still turn out to be very important for us, he might not as well but he should be given the chance so we can all find out. Targett, Luiz, Trezeguet and Konsa weren't doing great at that time and Nakamba and Hause got better as well 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 hours ago, hippo said: Bottom line - perhaps those at the club don't think he is good enough. Given his goals record and recent injury -its difficult to see anyone stumping up a fee - therefore a loan seems the most likely option. His goal record better than Timo Werner. How much would werner go for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Zatman said: His goal record better than Timo Werner. How much would werner go for now? Id still take werner over wesley. You can see Werner is a really good player despite his poor goal return 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Targett, Luiz, Trezeguet and Konsa weren't doing great at that time and Nakamba and Hause got better as well Was just about to type out something similar to this. A lot of our players who took time to settle last season have been brilliant this season, unfortunately the injury to Wesley means we haven't been able to see whether the same applies to him. Next season will effectively be his proper second season so maybe we should see how he gets on and hopefully he will have fully settled and can show an improvement the same as the likes of Targett and Konsa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 He is nowhere near Watkins level. So how can it be justified keeping him on? This isn't charity business. We need a striker who can actually challenge and compete with Watkins. That's how we improve, and that's how we get to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: He is nowhere near Watkins level. So how can it be justified keeping him on? This isn't charity business. We need a striker who can actually challenge and compete with Watkins. That's how we improve, and that's how we get to the next level. What do you mean keeping him on? You wanna sell him? Loan him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, HKP90 said: What do you mean keeping him on? You wanna sell him? Loan him out? Sell him. Davis as well probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, villalad21 said: Sell him. Davis as well probably. We wouldn’t get a third of what we paid for him. That’s terrible business. You have to develop the asset before you sell, otherwise we’re literally just spunking money down the drain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, HKP90 said: We wouldn’t get a third of what we paid for him. That’s terrible business. You have to develop the asset before you sell, otherwise we’re literally just spunking money down the drain. Sometimes you just have to take the L when there is nothing to develop. Can't polish a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Sometimes you just have to take the L when there is nothing to develop. Can't polish a turd. But there is absolutely nothing to gain. We’d be financially better off if we put him in the reserves and never played him. He’s on around £60,000 per year, which is £3M per year. So we could have him on the payroll for the rest of his contract (til 2024) and we’d still be financially better off than selling him for half his value. Plus he might then come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Sometimes you just have to take the L when there is nothing to develop. Can't polish a turd. Well you say Bielsa is doing it all season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 He’s a decent finisher 5 goals in 21 appearances last season in a much poorer performing team was ok, he has obvious flaws to his game but we might as well continue developing him it’s unlikely we recoup what we paid for him but he can be 2nd or 3rd choice for the foreseeable future strikers don’t come cheap even backup ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MentalM Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: Can't polish a turd. Stop comparing our players to feces you obtuse boor We seen Wesley for half a season, Watkins looks better but we have a young man moving here from abroad settling in UK. The vast improvement the rest of the same transfer window signings has had makes me believe in Wesley. I deem the people responsible for the choice of keeping him or loaning him away to know whats the best. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Wesley scored a goal every 3.8 games. Watkins scored one every 2.3 games. In a much better team that scored 30% more goals. In a country he is from and had experience playing in. When I say Wesley is an unbelievable alternative, I mean we play with a lone striker, and our other striker is a Brazilian international, who has not had a chance to show what he can do after his injury. I think some people in this thread are just stanning the idea of Wesley being rubbish and wanting get rid without thinking about why or the alternatives, and there isn't even a logical thought to go along with it anymore. #Wexit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, YLN said: Wesley scored a goal every 3.8 games. Watkins scored one every 2.3 games. In a much better team that scored 30% more goals. In a country he is from and had experience playing in. When I say Wesley is an unbelievable alternative, I mean we play with a lone striker, and our other striker is a Brazilian international, who has not had a chance to show what he can do after his injury. I think some people in this thread are just stanning the idea of Wesley being rubbish and wanting get rid without thinking about why or the alternatives, and there isn't even a logical thought to go along with it anymore. #Wexit Looking forward to him being fully fit as hes quite a unit now. Could be a real handful. Hope he comes back stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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