villalad21 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, MaVilla said: He played half a season for us before his injury. Scored 5 goals in a poor team. Played well sometimes and not so well others. Looked like a man mountain sometimes and petulant others. I can't believe people are writing him off when most of our signings struggled in that first season, even Luiz until the last 10 games post lockdown. Personally, I think coming back from injury, with much less pressure on him, a better side and time to get minutes and settle in off the bench will be good for him. I think he will come good, the current better team, less pressure due to being behind watkins, more time to adapt, will probably help him. We need options, and I for one will be very happy when he returns and gets up to speed, and we have both watkins and wesley as options. I think he could be a decent player. But not as a 9 in a 4-3-3 system. Just a bad fit really. He will never be a 9. Mind boggling that people still don't see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 If he comes as an option off the bench in a settled side and makes some positive contributions our infamous 2019 transfer window could be seen in a whole new light. Players like Konsa, Luiz and Trez from that window have since come good. If Wesley also settles and looks the part you’d have to say we actually had a pretty decent window last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rds1983 Posted October 29, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Glad to see Wesley back out on the training pitch. Edited October 29, 2020 by Rds1983 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) On 19/10/2020 at 10:06, MaVilla said: He played half a season for us before his injury. Scored 5 goals in a poor team. Played well sometimes and not so well others. Looked like a man mountain sometimes and petulant others. I can't believe people are writing him off when most of our signings struggled in that first season, even Luiz until the last 10 games post lockdown. Personally, I think coming back from injury, with much less pressure on him, a better side and time to get minutes and settle in off the bench will be good for him. I think he will come good, the current better team, less pressure due to being behind watkins, more time to adapt, will probably help him. We need options, and I for one will be very happy when he returns and gets up to speed, and we have both watkins and wesley as options. I think that's incorrect. Or maybe not incorrect, but rather painting an inaccurate picture. He played well maybe 4 matches, and considering he played 22 matches in total. Edited October 29, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I think that's incorrect. He played well maybe 4 matches, and considering he played 22 matches in total. You could probably say that about the whole (or most of) the team generally speaking. Some of whom went on to do pretty well towards the end of the season and the start of this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 19/10/2020 at 09:24, villalad21 said: I think he could be a decent player. But not as a 9 in a 4-3-3 system. Just a bad fit really. He will never be a 9. Mind boggling that people still don't see it. Wherelse is he going to play then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: You could probably say that about the whole (or most of) the team generally speaking. Some of whom went on to do pretty well towards the end of the season and the start of this season. Fair point. I think there's a massive difference there, but fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Wherelse is he going to play then? Right sided bench seat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Right sided bench seat Or the bench next to the bench.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Good to see him back on grass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 19/10/2020 at 09:35, LondonLax said: If he comes as an option off the bench in a settled side and makes some positive contributions our infamous 2019 transfer window could be seen in a whole new light. Players like Konsa, Luiz and Trez from that window have since come good. If Wesley also settles and looks the part you’d have to say we actually had a pretty decent window last year. Especially if you throw in mings and targett as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 hours ago, TRO said: Good to see him back on grass. As long as he doesn’t get tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Probably a player that would thrive without a crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Does that mean he's back in full training now? Could make it back after November international so suggests why we didn't get another striker in the last window. As said above could do o.k without a crowd frustrated with him but we need to be patient as it was a very serious injury. Kodj was never the same after his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GingerCollins29 Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 All the hate is harsh. Looked to be getting better as the season went on. Became more settled with the team, scored some goals. Horrendous injury. He's early 20's playing in a different country. I personslly hope and think he will want to lrove a point and give ollie serious competition. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: All the hate is harsh. FFS, so sick of this all over VT. WHERE IS THE HATE? It seems these days you are either loving and all over a player or you hate a player. There is no inbetween. It's perfectly possible to question a players abilities and wonder if he will make it/fit in without being filled with HATE for him. It's just informed discussion, not lynching v Julie B kidnap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: All the hate is harsh. Looked to be getting better as the season went on. Became more settled with the team, scored some goals. Horrendous injury. He's early 20's playing in a different country. I personslly hope and think he will want to lrove a point and give ollie serious competition. Where is the hate? Posters have expressed frustration with him, that they don't think he's that good! Hardly hate? Hardly Bruce Territory is it. And he really didn't look to be getting better. Can't see where he fits into a DS team not mobile enough, still hope he comes back better than he was though. Edited October 30, 2020 by zab6359 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: FFS, so sick of this all over VT. WHERE IS THE HATE? It seems these days you are either loving and all over a player or you hate a player. There is no inbetween. It's perfectly possible to question a players abilities and wonder if he will make it/fit in without being filled with HATE for him. It's just informed discussion, not lynching v Julie B kidnap. **** hell go and take a lie down pal. I was actually referring to twitter mostly but there's a lot of negativity on here also. Of course it's ok to question a players ability. I never said it wasn't. Irony here is you talk about informed discussion yet you unleash hell on me for posting my opinion. Where's the reasoned debate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, zab6359 said: Where is the hate? Posters have expressed frustration with him, that they don't think he's that good! Hardly hate? Hardly Bruce Territory is it. And he really didn't look to be getting better. Can't see where he fits into a DS team not mobile enough, still hope he comes back better than he was though. Twitter. Some here too. He was looking better. Did you watch the burnley game? He's far superior to davis and i hope he can give watkins s run for his money, therefore getting the best out of both of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Welcome back big wes. We wont see hin until December the earliest. He hasnt played in almost a year and its a big injury. I think him and ollie could be a real handful when we are chasing a game. Big man holding it up and releasing ollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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