Zatman Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Ok. Let’s stick with the striker who’s only trait is holding the ball up (but is actually really, really bad at it) over the striker who is actually really, really good at it. He’s scored no more goals than what Davis would have done. And even if he has, as a team, we’d have scored more. Wesleys is absolute garbage. He’ll cost Smith his job if he isn’t careful. Davis has 2 league goals in 40 games in a lower league playing in one of the best teams in that division. I like Davis but he is getting a bit of Reo Coker syndrome here that he will come in and back in goals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Looks unhappy on the pitch, to the point where it's almost like he's looking for reasons to fail, though oddly enough, he seemed to step up a gear after that ball to the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 He’s clearly a unit but he doesn’t really know how to use his power against defenders who are of a far far higher quality than he’s faced before. With regular games he will undoubtedly get better and if he keeps chipping in with the odd goal you’d imagine he’ll get that. Very little to choose between him and Davis at the moment. If anything I’d say Davis brings us a bit more to his overall game. Don’t think anyone is putting their quids on either to get a goal though which is a worry. We are pretty much carrying him at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 hours ago, villanmac said: The performances of Wesley are actually the one that gives me hope for the rest of the season. If we can be 'in' games with him upfront as a human mannequin doing **** all then we might actually be a decent prem team. He's doing an OK job as a placeholder until we buy an actual footballer with the requisite attributes of an striker in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Both of our goals he was nowhere near getting into position to finish himself, and its not like he was making a good decoy run either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) The very fact he’s top of this messaging forum and hasn’t scored today tells you everything if you didn’t go to the game; he’s poor and needs dropping. He’s costing us points and whilst I don’t think Keinan (or Kodjia) are better, Wesley needs to know he isn’t for a guaranteed starting place in this team. He was woeful today. Spends too long playing the man not the ball, is powder puff up top and his ineffectiveness causes other players to overcompensate on his behalf. No harm in trying Davies instead. He’s more hungry and can’t do much worse. Edited September 28, 2019 by roonst83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Has took his goals well previously and he obviously has some ability. But he needs to do a lot better than he has today. A foul was given against him early on for backing in (looked harsh). After that he seemed to not try, it was like he thought “what’s the point a foul will go against me anyway”. You just can’t do that, needs to work for the team, needs to use his body, needs to try to head the ball. Come on Wes! he really looked lacking in confidence today, he seems to expect to get fouls all the time and sulks when he doesn't or when he gets out muscled easily, he definitely stopped trying in the second half. He needs a kick up the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I can handle a new striker needing time to adapt to a new league and the premier league. That's fine. Hell it's not like the rest of the team are flawless. What I can't handle is playacting. What I can't handle it going down like you've been shot holding your face when you get hit in the upper body. Just pathetic. I've been defending him up to this point, and I think 2 goals so far is a fair return, even if his performances have been shit. But I can't defend this guy anymore. Embarrassing doesn't cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I don't see 20 something million. Just looks....rough and not in the hard man sense. As a footballer. Touch, positional play. It's early days, hope i am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Frustrating but there is definitely a good striker in there. Obviously a confidence player. Happy for him to keep playing as with more game time he will hopefully get better and more confident but Dean really needs to take him off a lot earlier if he performs again like he did today and the coaches really need to tell him to cut out the play acting bollocks. Edited September 28, 2019 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Wet yogurt is very accurate. Has to be dropped for Norwich trip. A pathetic, limp performance. Letting the whole team down. Wins absolutely nothing. Literally like having no one up front. If he was a youth player who had just appeared I'd be saying he's got no chance of making it as a Premier League player. For the McGinn disallowed goal it was right to him and he missed it 4 yards out. I thought he cleverly left it for McGinn on first viewing. In lieu of how his performance panned out I might have to revisit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I can handle a new striker needing time to adapt to a new league and the premier league. That's fine. Hell it's not like the rest of the team are flawless. What I can't handle is playacting. What I can't handle it going down like you've been shot holding your face when you get hit in the upper body. Just pathetic. I've been defending him up to this point, and I think 2 goals so far is a fair return, even if his performances have been shit. But I can't defend this guy anymore. Embarrassing doesn't cover it. He wasn't hit by the player in his face, but by the ball. It knocked him out for about a minute too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He wasn't hit by the player in his face, but by the ball. It knocked him out for about a minute too. Did it knock him out or did he lie there motionless? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He wasn't hit by the player in his face, but by the ball. It knocked him out for about a minute too. Boot to the chest. Ball to the face. And I don't think he was knocked out at all. He is a playacting pansy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 28, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, andym said: Both of our goals he was nowhere near getting into position to finish himself, and its not like he was making a good decoy run either He was in a brilliant position to finish the offside goal though. He just totally missed the ball allowing McGinn to sweep home the easiest of chances he'd inexplicably missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I think if Davis was in the team McGinn and Grealish would have more goals. It's obvious that the players don't trust morares they way they always have a dip instead of playing him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Did it knock him out or did he lie there motionless? I guess it's up to stay you want to believe. His teammates thought he was knocked out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 He pretended to be knocked out for some reason. We lost the ball in a good area because of it. Wish he'd have gone off at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I guess it's up to stay you want to believe. His teammates thought he was knocked out though. Well, if he was actually knocked out i highly highly doubt they would have let him back on the pitch, so I would guess he was play acting or throwing some form of strop. Edited September 28, 2019 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Don't see why he'd need to play act getting hit in the face with a ball and pretend to be knocked out...near the center circle. Like even if you were someone who play acts a lot it wouldn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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