Johnnyp Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 There was a time in the 90s and noughties when we dominated this fixture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 8 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: We look ready for Spurs now after seeing that Leipzig match, my team would be: Heaton Guilbert Engels Mings Targett McGinn Luiz Grealish Jota Wesley El Ghazi (if fit, he came off injured against Leipzig) Agree with that, in the main but with two changes. The one is obviously El Ghazi because going by his shrieking he won't be playing for a while. It was a brief cameo but Hassan looked good there so he may get the nod. Luiz is still in Brazil, AFAIK, so I'll be surprised if he gets an immediate start. He may not even be in the country by next Saturday, although he's apparently arriving Monday. Similarly Nakamba. I don't think he'll start either but he'll maybe come on for Hourihane to help protect our four-goal lead and Luiz will come on for McGinn to keep the heat on a bamboozled and knackered bunch of Spuds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, privateer said: Agree with that, in the main but with two changes. The one is obviously El Ghazi because going by his shrieking he won't be playing for a while. It was a brief cameo but Hassan looked good there so he may get the nod. Luiz is still in Brazil, AFAIK, so I'll be surprised if he gets an immediate start. He may not even be in the country by next Saturday, although he's apparently arriving Monday. Similarly Nakamba. I don't think he'll start either but he'll maybe come on for Hourihane to help protect our four-goal lead and Luiz will come on for McGinn to keep the heat on a bamboozled and knackered bunch of Spuds. It did look like it was a bad injury to El Ghazi, he’s tough, he’ll come back stronger Hourihane would get dominated in The Premier League in my opinion, hence why we’ve signed 2 defensive midfielders You don’f think McGinn will start after his heroics of last season? For me, our midfield will be McGinn-Luiz/Nakamba-Grealish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: It did look like it was a bad injury to El Ghazi, he’s tough, he’ll come back stronger Hourihane would get dominated in The Premier League in my opinion, hence why we’ve signed 2 defensive midfielders You don’f think McGinn will start after his heroics of last season? For me, our midfield will be McGinn-Luiz/Nakamba-Grealish I said, "come on for" not, "come in for" re: McGinn. I'd agree your midfield will come to be those named in later matches, I'm just of the view that next week it will be the one that played today. It's all about the week at Bodymoor, though, and how Luiz (whenever he arrives) and Nakamba settle and perform as part of the unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 It’s been a good pre season but fearing the worst versus spurs. They were a Champions League finalist and have strengthened again. It’s a real baptism of fire. I just hope that it’s competitive and we come out of the game with something to build on. I’d be ecstatic with a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villatillidie1980 Posted August 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2019 Let’s be honest, on paper, we lose. Nobody will be expecting us to go there and get a result. For me, it’s a free hit and because we’re a bit of an unknown quantity right now, anything could happen... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 4, 2019 They always say the worst teams to get on the opening weekend are the promoted teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Dele Ali out with a hamstring injury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, theboyangel said: Dele Ali out with a hamstring injury. Son is also carrying a suspension from last season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Son and Dele out for Spurs, they'll still have a strong team but it gives us a bit more of a chance. Personally think Son is ridiculously good so I'm glad he's missing. Our best chance imo is gonna come out wide, their full backs are probably the weakest part of their team so if we can get our wingers running at them we can put them on the back foot. I saw the highlights of the game yesterday and I think Trezeguet looked fast and direct, I don't think Jota will offer that which is why I'd have him on the bench and maybe start him against Bournemouth. Hope El Ghazi can start but looked in a lot of pain, would imagine we'll sign another winger/forward before deadline day - looking like Benrahma so if he is fit he'll definitely be an option to start. Given Hourihane's performance yesterday he does deserve to start, just not sure how he's gonna cope in that role against Spurs but he looked accomplished against Leipzig. Edited August 4, 2019 by VillaFaninLondon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 well, the tottenham forums seem to say: "7-1" "8-1" "It’s Aston Villa, we should be able to wipe the floor with them even with 10 players missing. " "We don’t need or shouldn’t even be thinking about having defensive midfielders when we are at home to teams like these " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Surely it's more likely Marvelous will play ahead of Luiz. Benrahma should he sign is not even fit let alone 'match fit'. Hope El Ghazi is ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 7 hours ago, MaVilla said: well, the tottenham forums seem to say: "7-1" "8-1" "It’s Aston Villa, we should be able to wipe the floor with them even with 10 players missing. " "We don’t need or shouldn’t even be thinking about having defensive midfielders when we are at home to teams like these " That's good I guess, You'd like everybody to underestimate us I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Everyone basically views us as Fulham. Will be nice to surprise a few people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Heaton Guilbert Engels Mings Targett Hourihane McGinn Grealish Jota Wesley El Ghazi Personally want to see this on Saturday. If El Ghazi is injured then Trezeguet can come in for him with no issues. Hourihane at DM for me, set pieces are going to be important this season. Nakamba can come on second half if it isn't working. This game will come too soon for Luiz so not sure why people are including him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Seems Alli is confirmed out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, wilko154 said: Heaton Guilbert Engels Mings Targett Hourihane McGinn Grealish Jota Wesley El Ghazi Personally want to see this on Saturday. If El Ghazi is injured then Trezeguet can come in for him with no issues. Hourihane at DM for me, set pieces are going to be important this season. Nakamba can come on second half if it isn't working. This game will come too soon for Luiz so not sure why people are including him. In my opinion, Hourihane is the would be dominated in the Premier League, hence why we’ve signed 2 defensive midfielders. I’d be amazed if either of them don’t start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: In my opinion, Hourihane is the would be dominated in the Premier League, hence why we’ve signed 2 defensive midfielders. I’d be amazed if either of them don’t start Marvelous has played one pre season game behind closed doors and Luiz has not been involved at all. Hourihane will start this game i can almost guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: In my opinion, Hourihane is the would be dominated in the Premier League, hence why we’ve signed 2 defensive midfielders. I’d be amazed if either of them don’t start But he wasn't dominated against RB Leipzig, the 3rd best team in Germany. Leipzig are better or as good as at least 50% of the PL. I have no doubt that Luiz and Nakamba will start at DM once they have been integrated into the squad. But currently Hourihane is the best option, and his set pieces alone are worthwhile including as he showed on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Great to see so much confidence on here. I'm fully confident about the season in general but feel we are just too unprepared going into this one. The new players have not had enough time, Luiz hasn't had any time, and I'm sure there will be still more new faces before Thursday night. It's going to take us weeks to get into our stride. I hope we can compete but fully expect a bit of a battering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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