villalad21 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 17/07/2019 at 01:24, Villarocker said: How do people fancy this starting lineup if the Heaton and Trezeguet deals can go through? Nope. Don't want McGinn playing that deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted July 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah but it's slightly misleading because Mings, Hause and El Ghazi were effectively here last season anyway. Swings and roundabouts though. Gardner and De Laet were out on loan for the whole season. Elphick and McCormack were out for parts of the season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: But they were not our players though so I'd say it's a accurate assumption as all those were players despite playing very little permanent players at the club. It's accurate. I'm just saying it's slightly misleading because we effectively lost 3 more players from the squad last season, and 3 of the players we've signed this season have just been those players re-signing. So whereas that graphic shows 10 out and 9 in, effectively it's 13 out and 9 in (or 10 out and 6 in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Nope. Don't want McGinn playing that deep. How about this line up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: On paper this looks a lot stronger than last year. Our commercial deals are really pulling out all the stops. When did skybet start sponsoring Smith's Douglas? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 need to sign Douglas first!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: But how many of those players properly featured last season? Whelan and Adomah? Hutton before we turned good. That's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I think crucially now, the squad looks better than the last squad we had that survived in the prem, with an improvement in recruitment, youth back up and coaching staff too. Nothing really to be negative about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 15/07/2019 at 11:15, omariqy said: Updated squad assuming the three deals mooted to complete this week happen. GK and another striker needed for me. Maybe another CM if Thor, Lansbury and Tshibola leave. GK Steer, Kalinic, Nyland RB Guilbert, Elmo, Bree LB Targett, Taylor CB Mings, Konsa, Engels, Chester, Hause RM Jota, Trezeguet LM El Ghazi, Green CM Luiz, Grealish, Hourihane, McGinn, Thor, Lansbury, Tshibola CF Wesley, Kodjia, Davis, RHM, Hogan GK Steer, Kalinic, Nyland RB Guilbert, Elmo, Bree LB Targett, Taylor CB Mings, Konsa, Engels, Chester, Hause RM Jota, Trezeguet LM El Ghazi, Green CM Luiz, Nakamba, Grealish, Hourihane, McGinn, Thor, Lansbury CF Wesley, Kodjia, Davis, RHM, Hogan That is 26 players now so guessing RHM and Bree will go out on loan, Hogan Kalinic and Thor will probably leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Hope the club have remembered there's a 25 man squad rule! This is exactly what I was talking about when debating with those that wanted Glen Whelan to stay, would you rather have him over Douglas or Marvelous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) With regards to any fears we have too much to do in terms of bringing the squad together on the pitch, squad unity or "doing a Fulham" as it has become known: Mings - at Villa last season Hause - at Villa last season El Ghazi - at Villa last season Jota - worked with Smith at Brentford Konsa - worked with Smith at Brentford Targett - worked with Grealish at England U21 level Wesley - worked with Engels and Nakamba at Club Brugge Engels - worked with Wesley and Nakamba at club Brugge Nakamba - worked with Wesley and Engels at Club Brugge Trezeguet - worked with Elmo at Egypt That leaves Guilbert and Douglas with no previous connection to the club or each other at all. Guilbert seems to have settled in just fine and Douglas has plenty of incentive to make this work. More importantly so long as we have stuck to our guns and highlighted character as an important trait, integration shouldn't be a major issue. The next question is do they fit the system we are looking to employ? Again this will be on the scouting/analytics department, as long as they have done their job properly we should be good to go. We haven't signed 5 players on deadline day either. The majority have been here for a couple of weeks now, if not the entirety of pre-season. There's still over a fortnight left till we kick off. We have HAD to do this regardless and we have gone about it the right way. Given ourselves the best shot possible. Edited July 25, 2019 by dont_do_it_doug. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: With regards to any fears we have too much to do in terms of bringing the squad together on the pitch, squad unity or "doing a Fulham" as it has become known: Mings - at Villa last season Hause - at Villa last season El Ghazi - at Villa last season Jota - worked with Smith at Brentford Konsa - worked with Smith at Brentford Targett - worked with Grealish at England U21 level Wesley - worked with Engels and Nakamba at Club Brugge Engels - worked with Wesley and Nakamba at club Brugge Nakamba - worked with Wesley and Engels at Club Brugge Trezeguet - worked with Elmo at Egypt That leaves Guilbert and Douglas with no previous connection to the club or each other at all. Guilbert seems to have settled in just fine and Douglas has plenty of incentive to make this work. More importantly so long as we have stuck to our guns and highlighted character as an important trait, integration shouldn't be a major issue. The next question is do they fit the system we are looking to employ? Again this will be on the scouting/analytics department, as long as they have done their job properly we should be good to go. We haven't signed 5 players on deadline day either. The majority have been here for a couple of weeks now, if not the entirety of pre-season. There's still over a fortnight left till we kick off. We have HAD to do this regardless and we have gone about it the right way. Given ourselves the best shot possible. Exactly my thoughts, I just couldn’t be arsed to write it all out Totally agree, we’ve retained the core of our promotion winning side and enhanced it with superior players in key positions who have pre-existing links and relationships. We played and linked well against Walsall and will just continue to improve. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Now we have got our 'Ins' pretty much sorted, I think we will be seeing the 'outs' happen....Thor, Lansbury, Tish and Hogan. I can't believe the balance of the squad. No square pegs in round holes. Players all comfortable with pass and move....what is this witchcraft?? One thing for sure, despite the transformation of the team, we will lose games we should win and win games we should lose but it will be a hell of an enjoyable ride!! Edited July 25, 2019 by New_Hope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Must admit I had reservations about bringing in a lot of players. But to be fair, the ones we've brought in have either worked with Smith before, were here last season or are (by and large) young players with a point to prove. Really pleased with what we've done so far in all fairness, looks like we've brought in the right type of players too. We may need to be patient - it won't all click overnight. Might be a month or two before we really start to see this team click into gear. Hats off to Purslow and the recruitment team so far though - good forward planning and clearly had many of these ready to go for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Bloods ace squad to be fair. Some planning too considering all other clubs had three weeks head start on us for planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Villaman84 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) What a Squad we have ! About time we are full strength and cover, Rotation, fight place. Even Youth Player future stars there go list - GoalKeeper - A - New Sign ((Will edit this once we sign goalkeeper)) B - Steer R - Nyland | Kalinac ((One of them to sold even I dont mind both begin sold to give way to youth Villa Goalkeeper Sarkic and one that u23 brilliant goalkeeper i forget his name) Right Back - A - Guilbert B - Elmo R - Youth Villa Player ??? Left Back - A - Targett B - Taylor R - Youth Villa Player ??? Centre Half - A - Engels + Mings B - Konsa + Hause R - Suliman + Raven 3rd optional for 3 back for Team A and B - Chester Right Winger - A - Jota B - Hassan (Treg) R- Youth Villa Player ??? Left winger A - El Ghazi B - Green ((Would replacement him - maybe left foot indeed right foot as we has Treg)) R - Youth Villa Player ??? Defensive Midfield + Centre Midfield + Attack Midfield A - Luiz + McGinn + Grealish B - Nakama + Conor + Lansbury R - Doyle-Hayes + Clark + Ramsey | O'hare Forward - A - Wesley B - Kodjia ((Would replacement him - hopefully Maupay or else)) R - Davis That is damn good option and fight place .... That make me exciting to watch Villa in premier leagues.. these Squad is Strong enough challenger any top 10. and too strong for bottom 3. Note: A - Team A B - Team B R - Reversed | U23 optional Looking like Branjasson is Fight place which positive to see this but i think he should be sold. sold - Hogan and Tisha if someone come bid likely sold - Chester Edited July 25, 2019 by Danny_Villaman84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 25, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2019 I think Dean Smith is going for the controversial tactic of playing more than 11 players at once, think we’ll line up like this: Steer Kalinic Guilbert Elmo Konsa Mings Hause Targett Luiz Nakamba Jota Grealish McGinn Trézéguet El Ghazi Wesley It’s the classic 2 GKs with the 6-7-1 formation, it can’t fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 If we sign another keeper plus Nakamba that will make us up to a 31 man squad if O'Hare is included. I think they need to loan out or sell Kalinic, loan out Bree, loan out O'Hare, loan out Hepburn-Murphy, sell Bjarnason & either sell/loan out Hogan or loan out Davis. What a very decent squad with depth of quality we will be left with then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Not sure how true this is but i hear our starting eleven got kicked all over the pitch today against kuwaiti national team They played very dirty and one contact at the club said that wesley was injured..not sure if thats accurate i bloody hope not.. kuwaitis wont be welcomed back in a hurry..we were doing them a favour after their friendly against qpr fell through Edited July 25, 2019 by OLDVILLAIN spelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 25, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: Not sure how true this is but i hear our starting eleven got kicked all over the pitch today against kuwaiti national team They played very dirty and one contact at the club said that wesley was injured..not sure if thats accurate i bloody hope not.. kuwaitis wont be welcomed back in a hurry..we were doing them a favour after their friendly against qpr fell through Surely our main players wouldn't be playing a full game again today after playing last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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