John Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 9 hours ago, villalad21 said: You won't get it on the training ground because everyone is tested. I'm almost 100 % certain no players or staff will get infected during this training period. You were "almost 100% certain" above that no players or staff would get infected training in the PL, but then "expected more" than 2 in Germany? 4 hours ago, villalad21 said: Germany had more players testing positive. I see this as good news. I expected more. Less than 1 % 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 The Premier League approach is similar to the government's. Garbled, contradictory, ill thought out and seemingly with little consequence of the long term impacts. Ladies and Gentlemen we are going to hell in a handcart with the rest of the world baffled at our posturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: The media spin is interesting. Compare and contrast: That’s Otp. Football may be non essential but other people are being told to go back to work so he’s no lab rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Villan_of_oz said: I wonder if Sky and BT were around in WWII, would they have just given the players soldiers helmets and said you have to play with these on these will make it as safe as it's going to get. No because most of the players were called up to the armed services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted May 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, PaulC said: No because most of the players were called up to the armed services I'm aware of that mate, I think you've missed my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Rose is an idiot. Everyone else have to get back to work in less protected environments. Crap footballer. No one will miss him if he doesn't turn up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Rose is an idiot. Everyone else have to get back to work in less protected environments. Crap footballer. No one will miss him if he doesn't turn up. Yes Rose is the idiot here 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Josh King now joined Deeney in not sure he wants to return. I think it damages the integrity of the Premier League more if players refusing to return 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: Josh King now joined Deeney in not sure he wants to return. I think it damages the integrity of the Premier League more if players refusing to return If our relegation rivals are losing important players that's beneficial for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Josh King now joined Deeney in not sure he wants to return. I think it damages the integrity of the Premier League more if players refusing to return Shhh. If we are to resume, the better players from relegation rivals not wanting to play is fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 I couldnt give a **** if we go down at this stage, this league is a **** farce 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villan_of_oz Posted May 20, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: I couldnt give a **** if we go down at this stage, this league is a **** farce This, I hadn't wanted to say it but I'll 2nd it. I don't care what league we play in anymore, being completely selfish I'd have us in the championship so I never have to watch the PL ever again. I'm so over the whole obsession of getting the league up and running. In Australia we have 12 active cases country wide (don't quote me on exact number) and we are still being more cautious than the PL and other leagues. In South Australia where I'm from we've had 4 deaths and have 0 active cases, and we are still being cautious with the return of sport. Im sorry but from the outside, and I admit I don't live in your country, but the PL is a disgrace and your government is a disgrace for allowing it. People who are being blase are morons. The US has been blase, see how that's working for them. The whole saga has seriously tainted my view of professional sports. I'll be backing my words up with actions too. Edited May 20, 2020 by Villan_of_oz 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I feel the same way, it's all left a terrible feeling with me. Scotland's stance was very much it's not safe to finish the league, numbers of deaths and infections in Scotland are way less than in England. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Zatman said: I couldnt give a **** if we go down at this stage, this league is a **** farce Whilst I can agree the league is a farce, I can’t agree about not giving 5hIt if we go down. Whether we like it or not the league is intent on starting up again. Villa must be amongst the front runners of fitness when it does start up, amongst the best prepared for the situation ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I’m not sure about the loan situation and whether he’s available, but I’d think that there could be a role to play for Jacob Ramsey? Young, energetic, talented. These upcoming games behind closed doors could be an ideal situation to get players such as Ramsey and Vassilev in and around the first 11. These last 10 games are going to be a sprint, fitness and energy will be vital. Two young and exuberant players could be just the extra bit of fizz we need to give us an edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 All about $$$$$$ nothing more simply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: I’m not sure about the loan situation and whether he’s available, but I’d think that there could be a role to play for Jacob Ramsey? Young, energetic, talented. These upcoming games behind closed doors could be an ideal situation to get players such as Ramsey and Vassilev in and around the first 11. These last 10 games are going to be a sprint, fitness and energy will be vital. Two young and exuberant players could be just the extra bit of fizz we need to give us an edge. Yes, some of these games may be made for young players with energy to play a late part in, the trouble is that teams like Chelsea and Manchester United, will have big hitters to come off their bench. If we do restart, I would think that Dean might want to try Graham Taylor's motivational speech, "You've got yourself into this mess, now get yourself out of it." Edited May 20, 2020 by John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trom_borg Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said: All about $$$$$$ nothing more simply. Yes, though part of that is very understandable as the flow of (big) money is essential to keep the lights on. So while its very sad to see the integrity of the game continuously washed away by the lust for money, some of that is simply born out of survival instincts. Which brings me to a point I feel is largely missing in the discussion around the economic impact for football and society as a whole. There is this urgent need to get back to business as usual to avoid devastating consequences, without acknowledging that BAU was what got us here in the first place. And if you argue that it is in fact the virus that got us here, I'd say sure, but a virus of this sort (or another event with similar impact) was 100% predictable and merely a question of time. So, before urging to get the game back on in a time when we still know very little about the virus, the effects of government measures, the long term health impacts ect, we should grasp this opportunity for real reform of the structures around the modern game. How can we ensure the sustainability and resiliency of the football pyramid, the grassroots organisations, the connection with the fans (of all classes!) and decades long local fan culture, the integrity of the game as a whole (World cup in Qatar played in stadiums build by modern slaves is just one horrible example of how far its gone the wrong way). I have very little hope for such reforms but I'm disappointed by the lack of mainstream discussion around it. Edited May 20, 2020 by trom_borg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, trom_borg said: Yes, though part of that is very understandable as the flow of (big) money is essential to keep the lights on. So while its very sad to see the integrity of the game continuously washed away by the lust for money, some of that is simply born out of survival instincts. Which brings me to a point I feel is largely missing in the discussion around the economic impact for football and society as a whole. There is this urgent need to get back to business as usual to avoid devastating consequences, without acknowledging that BAU was what got us here in the first place. And if you argue that it is in fact the virus that got us here, I'd say sure, but a virus of this sort (or another event with similar impact) was 100% predictable and merely a question of time. So, before urging to get the game back on in a time when we still know very little about the virus, the effects of government measures, the long term health impacts ect, we should grasp this opportunity for real reform of the structures around the modern game. How can we ensure the sustainability and resiliency of the football pyramid, the grassroots organisations, the connection with the fans (of all classes!) and decades long local fan culture, the integrity of the game as a whole (World cup in Qatar played in stadiums build by modern slaves is just one horrible example of how far its gone the wrong way). I have very little hope for such reforms but I'm disappointed by the lack of mainstream discussion around it. The problem is that it’s going the opposite way with more games because in turn that means more money. Expanded European competitions From straight out knock to modern day Champions League, International tournaments including more teams, Pre and Post season club tournaments rather than friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) With the European games being delayed until August....any idea if the FA Cup has been cancelled, from what I have seen nobody has mentioned it. That's another raft of games that they will also want to finish given how keen they are to complete everything else. Does it affect the Villa? maybe depending on when the games are played, whether some of these teams play weaker teams against us because they are playing in the cup a few days later especially with lack of fitness and amount of games being played plus for these teams it's their only chance of silverware this season. Although winning the FA Cup with no crowd is going to be so weird. The Draw 1 Sheffield United v Arsenal2 Newcastle United v Manchester City3 Norwich City v Manchester United4 Leicester City v Chelsea So has anybody heard if the FA Cup has been voided? and dont say if it hasnt then it should be, not with these money grabbing governing bodies. Edited May 20, 2020 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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