PaulC Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, weedman said: Not ok. Its NECESSARY. Without them thousands would die. Without footballers a few fat cats will have to wait a month or 2 before buying a 4th Lambo. It's not remotely comparable I know football is not essential but one life is no more valuable than another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: I know football is not essential but one life is no more valuable than another. All life is valuable, and to ask people to risk it is massive and should only be done in extreme circumstances, like when your essential people during a global pandemic without whom many multiple thousands would suffer and die. Not when you're a dude getting paid £20-250k per week to kick a ball around. It's chalk and cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes but if nurses, doctors, care workers, people working in the food supply chain took that attitude where would we be. But they still have, to have that right, Paul. Thats why we have all being clapping and Colonel Tom Moore has raised so much....its their bravery and courage and commitment that we have been applauding. There is a difference from being Brave and courageous, but the naysayers, still have to be accepted for their stance...its their right. Bravery and courage is a wonderful gift to have, but its not my place to judge a person that baulks at taking a risk with their own life. My understanding is and I will accept being corrected, that some key workers as you have described,have not worked due to the risks. Edited May 12, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, PaulC said: So you are saying it’s ok for them to risk their lives but not footballers No its not alright for them to risk their life....but they reserve the right to make that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Its not uncommon for multiple players to pick up serious injuries over a gameweek. Unnecessary stress on the medical profession if this happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, weedman said: All life is valuable, and to ask people to risk it is massive and should only be done in extreme circumstances, like when your essential people during a global pandemic without whom many multiple thousands would suffer and die. Not when you're a dude getting paid £20-250k per week to kick a ball around. It's chalk and cheese Money paid ,has no value v life. their wages is immaterial, its unlikely any amount of money would be risked for life. These Brave nurses are doing it out of duty and intrinsic vocation. There is no comparisons with footballers in terms of integrity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Latest in EFL is they can't vote on what they do until PL officially say there will be relegation , which is wierd as it was put that the FA had said relegation was a certainty games played or not.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Saw it mentioned today that the FA have allowed lower leagues to be null and voided even when some clubs appealed against it. So not sure they'd get away with saying that no relegation is okay further down the football pyramid, but not in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I think the FA have very little power in this scenario, they are only loud to make it seem they are a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, TRO said: No its not alright for them to risk their life....but they reserve the right to make that call. Do they though, they are not in a privileged position that footballers are. The season is cancelled, Aguero and Sterling are still going to pick up their 1 million pound a month. A worker at ASDA would have to go on universal credit. Massive difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, PaulC said: Do they though, they are not in a privileged position that footballers are. The season is cancelled, Aguero and Sterling are still going to pick up their 1 million pound a month. A worker at ASDA would have to go on universal credit. Massive difference. Life isn’t fair, this just highlights that. The point that the less non-essential people out and about the better whether that is a multi-million pound footballer, a white collar worker like me or a minimum wage non-essential retail worker because the more of these non-essentials out and about, more risk of infections, more deaths and more burden for the NHS workers you are arguing for and more deaths of those brave NHS workers. The more we are out, the more we are risking their lives as well not just our own. Footballers get paid too much, we know that! They should stay home still, just like any other non-essential people (if they can). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Assuming Purslow is an experienced negotiator etc. I cant believe he hasn't already prepared a legal case in case of ppg relegation. I think this is why the pl are so desperate to complete the season, it's the only way they wont get sued, either by the bottom 3 or top 3 in the championship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: Assuming Purslow is an experienced negotiator etc. I cant believe he hasn't already prepared a legal case in case of ppg relegation. I think this is why the pl are so desperate to complete the season, it's the only way they wont get sued, either by the bottom 3 or top 3 in the championship. Cheaper to defend or settle against teams that haven’t yet earned promotion than against teams punished who haven’t yet failed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 12, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Nabby said: Well some study is saying the chances of catching it during the match are low https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/05/11/la-liga-study-shows-risk-players-spreading-coronavirus-football/ Headline being you need to be within 2mts of someone for 15 mins before contact is relevant and players only close to somone for 1.5 mins in a 90 min game I don't believe that for one second. The virus has gone through the population like a knife through butter. Merely touching a surface where someone with has put their own hand spreads it. If you could only get it from lengthy extreme close contact it would no way have spread as extensively and as quickly as it did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Life isn’t fair, this just highlights that. The point that the less non-essential people out and about the better whether that is a multi-million pound footballer, a white collar worker like me or a minimum wage non-essential retail worker because the more of these non-essentials out and about, more risk of infections, more deaths and more burden for the NHS workers you are arguing for and more deaths of those brave NHS workers. The more we are out, the more we are risking their lives as well not just our own. Footballers get paid too much, we know that! They should stay home still, just like any other non-essential people (if they can). I wonder how many footballers are bored and want to return. We are only hearing from the ones that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't believe that for one second. The virus has gone through the population like a knife through butter. Merely touching a surface where someone with has put their own hand spreads it. If you could only get it from lengthy extreme close contact it would no way have spread as extensively and as quickly as it did. To start with im not buying they spend 88 seconds of close contact a game ...how long does it take to make a wall for a freekick with the ref counting the yards etc .How long to corners take ? Going further when they come out onto pitch do they have to stand 2mtrs apart in the tunnel? At the line up on the pitch ? Going in at half time ..sitting in the changing room at half time ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 If a lot of fans are showing up outside the stadiums punish the club by awarding the win to the opposition. I'm sure they'll get the message then and stay home next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, villalad21 said: If a lot of fans are showing up outside the stadiums punish the club by awarding the win to the opposition. I'm sure they'll get the message then and stay home next time. Ridiculous!! - you’d have a situation where rival fans would turn up pretending to be supporters of Aston Villa etc or other clubs. Be even more caotic. Blues fans or Sheffield United fans For eg. wearing Villa shirts outside VP. Crazy idea!! Edited May 13, 2020 by Mark_1989 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The plan will probably be testing all players 2 weeks before games. Testing day of the game. All players clear in a closed door environment Should be very safe It's either this or doing PPG Null and Voiders aren't getting their way no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, villalad21 said: The plan will probably be testing all players 2 weeks before games. Testing day of the game. All players clear in a closed door environment Should be very safe It's either this or doing PPG Null and Voiders aren't getting their way no matter what. What are your fellow Fulham fans hopes on this. Will PPG keep you in championship 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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