S-Platt Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 The Premier League would look daft cancelling the season at present. The Government have just extended the lock down for another 3 weeks. If at the end of that they ease restrictions on movement for certain people/businesses, that will allow decisions to made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PaulC said: More of a problem for the Premier League is not finishing the season as clubs would have to pay 762 million back to tv companies. Where has this £762m figure come from? That's substantially more than half of the annual payment, there is only 1/4 of the season left unplayed. Sounds like bullshit to me which has been reposted enough times to be fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PaulC said: Ok they will probably just get a lower deal then. Puts sky in a very good negotiating position. They could also give them more live games to show next season and beyond to make up for it, especially if 2 teams are added to the league if relegation is scrapped. I think the TV side of it will be ok, it's the other contractual obligations like others have said that are harder to get around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sidcow said: Where has this £762m figure come from? That's substantially more than half of the annual payment, there is only 1/4 of the season left unplayed. Sounds like bullshit to me which has been reposted enough times to be fact. Its in the Daily Mail. About half is sky money. Fact or fiction? Edited April 17, 2020 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 In a few weeks time the Premier League will announce that they have been forced to void the season due to the ongoing ban on all major sports. They will then make a whole lot of marketing noise about arrangements for the 20/21 season of PL football at a (fictional) time to be announced. You can only flog a dead horse for so long, before you accept that it's not going to get up and run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: In a few weeks time the Premier League will announce that they have been forced to void the season due to the ongoing ban on all major sports. They will then make a whole lot of marketing noise about arrangements for the 20/21 season of PL football at a (fictional) time to be announced. You can only flog a dead horse for so long, before you accept that it's not going to get up and run. Yeah, I think they are going through the motions, acting like they never gave in easy and did their best to keep the shown on, ready to say... You know, it's out of our hands now, it's not what we wanted but we have no choice now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 One good thing is McGinn wasn't rushed back early, pushed into action before he was fully healed. He will at least be 100% if we have to go again. We looked a million times better with him in the team. Those wins which looked pretty routine and well deserved wins against Brighton, Norwich and Newcastle came with him in the team. We looked like a proper Premier League team deserving of our place in those days. It mainly went wrong after we lost McGinn, even though he wasn't as dominant as he looked in The Championship he was doing a solid job of keeping our midfield together and functioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: Where has this £762m figure come from? That's substantially more than half of the annual payment, there is only 1/4 of the season left unplayed. Sounds like bullshit to me which has been reposted enough times to be fact. It's both the domestic and foreign rights money - about half and half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 17, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 17, 2020 The shortened season thing could throw up some strange team selections and approaches: If Liverpool come back and win their first game and City lose theirs, Klopp could well send the Liverpool first team on holiday and play the team that played us in the cup for the remainder of the season. The likes of Burnley, Palace and Everton are unlikely to move much in the table - do they throw some kids in too, do their players want to go at it full tilt for nine games? Once Man City and Leicester have Champions League places sewn up, do they take their foot off the gas? I think there'll be a lot more of this than there is at the end of a regular season - a shortened gap and less time off for players before 2020-21 starts will have a lot of managers with half an eye on resting players to get a flying start to next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 Just now, OutByEaster? said: The shortened season thing could throw up some strange team selections and approaches: If Liverpool come back and win their first game and City lose theirs, Klopp could well send the Liverpool first team on holiday and play the team that played us in the cup for the remainder of the season. The likes of Burnley, Palace and Everton are unlikely to move much in the table - do they throw some kids in too, do their players want to go at it full tilt for nine games? Once Man City and Leicester have Champions League places sewn up, do they take their foot off the gas? I think there'll be a lot more of this than there is at the end of a regular season - a shortened gap and less time off for players before 2020-21 starts will have a lot of managers with half an eye on resting players to get a flying start to next season. Yes, once players see nothing to play for anymore, in empty stadiums or training pitches, it's really difficult to see them going hell for leather. It might come down to how many on the beach teams each relegation candidate has to play compared to others. You might see some very silly results with some big clubs getting a right hiding which would never happen even when their season is over in front of full stadiums in a normal end of season encounter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, sidcow said: One good thing is McGinn wasn't rushed back early, pushed into action before he was fully healed. He will at least be 100% if we have to go again. We looked a million times better with him in the team. Those wins which looked pretty routine and well deserved wins against Brighton, Norwich and Newcastle came with him in the team. We looked like a proper Premier League team deserving of our place in those days. It mainly went wrong after we lost McGinn, even though he wasn't as dominant as he looked in The Championship he was doing a solid job of keeping our midfield together and functioning. Maybe for the first 10 or so games we looked good with McGinn, but because Dean kept pushing him forward rather than deep (he was often further forward than Grealish), McGinn became just an ineffective and crap as everyone else. I remember him gaining possession running into three players and losing it within seconds most games. With Luiz and Nakamba generally being crap we need McGinn more central, but no idea if Dean would play him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Do I hear the sound of a can being kicked further down the alley? No decision again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I didn't feel like reading this article from the Telegraph... but read this following sentence... 'Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Do I hear the sound of a can being kicked further down the alley? No decision again. The won’t null and void the season until circumstances dictate they have an unreasonable/unrealistic amount of time left to get it done, only this will stop the law suits so they will keep kicking the can down the road. They have to start 2020/21 Season in September At the very latest apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2020 I am fairly certain that if they let everyone out on say 18th May, there will be further lockdowns by mid June. The Genie will be back out of the bottle again. The most important thing though is we will have to win some bloody games PDQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, S-Platt said: The Premier League would look daft cancelling the season at present. The Government have just extended the lock down for another 3 weeks. If at the end of that they ease restrictions on movement for certain people/businesses, that will allow decisions to made. Yeah but sport like football won’t be in that easing even behind closed doors. First phase will still be gatherings less than 10 people. Football behind closed doors will still be 22 players, a ref and two assistants close during the match....that’s 25. Reserves on the bench, managers, coaching teams, doctors, medics and 4th official. We are closing on 50 people that by definition have no distance between them. Then half of these will then mix a few days later with another similar group when we play another team. That is repeated almost 100 times to cover the final PL fixtures of the season. Yeah that won’t be in the first phase of easing of restrictions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I don't think they will null and void the season at all, in both Belgium and Scotland they've frozen the leagues and in numerous other countries they've stated over and over again that voiding the season isn't an option, it's not being talked about anywhere as a realistic possibility. If the season can't be completed then the likely outcome is that the bottom current bottom three will be relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, useless said: I don't think they will null and void the season at all, in both Belgium and Scotland they've frozen the leagues and in numerous other countries they've stated over and over again that voiding the season isn't an option, it's not being talked about anywhere as a realistic possibility. If the season can't be completed then the likely outcome is that the bottom current bottom three will be relegated. No chance. The one thing we know is the PL have no balls, no way will they risk relegation based on the current position. The legal challenges alone....just not going to happen, it would be last last last resort. Edited April 17, 2020 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 If the season can't be completed then there's just as likely to be legal challanges with whatever alternative they come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Easier argument legally is that the championship teams didn’t earn promotion as the season couldn’t be fulfilled therefore don’t get promoted so PL teams remain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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