MaVilla Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Looking at the remaining fixtures for all teams around the relegation scrap, if we beat Everton and WHam we have a good chance of staying up. If we don't win even one of those games, we are done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Looking at the "possibles": Week 36: Man City (W) - Bournemouth Everton - (W) Villa WHam (W) - Watford Week 37: Bournemouth (W) - Southampton Watford - (W) Man City Villa - (W) Arsenal Man Utd (W) - WHam Week 38: Arsenal (D) - (D) Watford Everton (D) - (D) Bournmouth WHam - (W) Villa In that scenario the bottom is as follows: 16: WHam - 37 points 17: Villa - 36 points 18: Watford - 35 points 19: Bournmouth - 35 points 20: Norwich Important thing to note is that if watford beat WHam in week 36 they effectively swap places, so we would still stay up in that scenario. If WHam and Watford drew but all results above stay the same, WHam would be relegated and we would be OK. So basically, our entire season rests on that we MUST beat Everton AND WHam, as well as hope nothing out of the ordinary happens with other teams. If we don't beat either of everton or West ham, or a relegation rival manages a miracle win somewhere, we are done. Edited July 12, 2020 by MaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Man City free to play in the CL. The 2 year ban has been cancelled. Their fine is also reduced from £30m to £10m Oh joy! Edit: Let's see if this was one of the conditions for them agreeing to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle. Yeah I know it was a UEFA ban but these things tie together in the super corrupted world of football. Edited July 13, 2020 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, sne said: Man City free to play in the CL. The 2 year ban has been cancelled. Their fine is also reduced from £30m to £10m Oh joy! Edit: Let's see if this was one of the conditions for them agreeing to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle. Yeah I know it was a UEFA ban but these things tie together in the super corrupted world of football. It's a horrendous bullshit decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Rolta said: It's a horrendous bullshit decision. Is anybody surprised? Also, Saudi have more power than Abu Dhabi/Emirates so if anything it's them who would need clearance. Within the region, the UAE and Saudis usually work hand in hand. It's the Qataris they all have beef with. BEIN Sports (Qatari owned) hold the Premier League rights for broadcasting in the middle east. The Saudis have straight up been illegally broadcasting the PL under a service called (BeOUTQ) .. even dissing them in the name of the service lol. So the Qataris will have a heavy say on this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is anybody surprised? Also, Saudi have more power than Abu Dhabi/Emirates so if anything it's them who would need clearance. Within the region, the UAE and Saudis usually work hand in hand. It's the Qataris they all have beef with. BEIN Sports (Qatari owned) hold the Premier League rights for broadcasting in the middle east. The Saudis have straight up been illegally broadcasting the PL under a service called (BeOUTQ) .. even dissing them in the name of the service lol. So the Qataris will have a heavy say on this. A yes, Qatar is PSG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 That's great for us. Increases the chances of Arsenal being at the beach by the time they play us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted July 13, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 I should like to know, amongst all this players being at the beach rhetoric - what if some of these players actually prefer countryside/mountain views accommodation? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 There's nothing between West Ham and Watford in form, but it would be a big boost is West Ham can win and get safety. Beat Everton and the pressure will be growing on the others. 538 gives us 15% chance of survival - insert *jimcarrrey.gif* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, sne said: Man City free to play in the CL. The 2 year ban has been cancelled. Their fine is also reduced from £30m to £10m Oh joy! Edit: Let's see if this was one of the conditions for them agreeing to allow the Saudis to buy Newcastle. Yeah I know it was a UEFA ban but these things tie together in the super corrupted world of football. Just a complete joke.......break the rules but basically get off. Should just ignore things like rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So they still got fined, which means they did something wrong? If rules are rules, then surely the 2 year ban should stand? I'm complaining coz I love a relegation bound team, guess if I followed Man City I'd be saying justice is done. Another one for the 'football' is corrupt file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: That's great for us. Increases the chances of Arsenal being at the beach by the time they play us. And the more I look at it the more I do think we will need seven points to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sulberto21 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is anybody surprised? Also, Saudi have more power than Abu Dhabi/Emirates so if anything it's them who would need clearance. Within the region, the UAE and Saudis usually work hand in hand. It's the Qataris they all have beef with. BEIN Sports (Qatari owned) hold the Premier League rights for broadcasting in the middle east. The Saudis have straight up been illegally broadcasting the PL under a service called (BeOUTQ) .. even dissing them in the name of the service lol. So the Qataris will have a heavy say on this. All correct. There is one dynamic about the region that everyone must realise. The Saud's really do run things. They are the richest from all the middle Eastern nations. Qatar used to be buddies with them until They decided they are rich enough to be independent of Saudi. There's a lot of underhanded tactics from both nations especially in regards to weapons and the how and where they're being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Wow, I'm convinced!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 hours ago, rbcuk said: They won’t be getting champions league after this result, serves them right They are still 4th in the League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: They are still 4th in the League? Won’t be after Utd win tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) I think the FA cup may have an effect on our survival. Arsenal play on Saturday night against Man City and play us on the Tuesday hopefully that will effect their energy levels.Not sure if extra time is played any more but it would be good if it did. Arsenals last league game is Watford and if they got to the final they might rest quite a few players so let’s hope they don’t make the final. West Ham v Watford still not sure about best result for us,if it’s a draw it keeps West Ham in the relegation battle .If West Ham beat Watford and then Watford beat Arsenal that puts them on 37points with better goal difference means we will have to win all 3 games to go above Watford. Teams are fighting for their lives and winning games you wouldn’t expect them to(except us) so more teams involved the better. Edited July 13, 2020 by Only2McInallys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Lol at Spurs and Arsenal fighting for scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Only2McInallys said: I think the FA cup may have an effect on our survival. Arsenal play on Saturday night against Man City and play us on the Tuesday hopefully that will effect their energy levels.Not sure if extra time is played any more but it would be good if it did. Arsenals last league game is Watford and if they got to the final they might rest quite a few players so let’s hope they don’t make the final. West Ham v Watford still not sure about best result for us,if it’s a draw it keeps West Ham in the relegation battle .If West Ham beat Watford and then Watford beat Arsenal that puts them on 37points with better goal difference means we will have to win all 3 games to go above Watford. Teams are fighting for their lives and winning games you wouldn’t expect them to(except us) so more teams involved the better. Hoping to see all the youngsters (who are good) out against us. We can take a team full of Nelsons and Nketiahs because they're even more inexperienced than us. Really hope City knock them out though. A Watford win on the last day against them could be disastrous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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