daggy_333 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, hippo said: A chance to turn a profit in under 12 months ? They're both multi billionaires, I don't think it will have been worth there while to sell the club for an extra 40/50 million each. Makes no sense whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Man City fans must feel dirty. So you don't agree there's a difference between being owned by a Individual as opposed to a state? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that comment to the post. That two wrongs make a right? That there shouldn't be a moral/ethical discussion in regards to the possiblity of being owned by Quatar? Because Manchester City is owned by the UEA who's also been heavily criticised for violating human rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: And Egyptian! Plus everyone only loves our owners because they are also stinking rich. It has to be time for atrocity-wang - if you add up the number of innocents murdered by Egypt, USA versus Qatar, it's highly likely that the UK has killed more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Skruff said: So you don't agree there's a difference between being owned by a Individual as opposed to a state? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with that comment to the post. That two wrongs make a right? That there shouldn't be a moral/ethical discussion in regards to the possiblity of being owned by Quatar? Because Manchester City is owned by the UEA who's also been heavily criticised for violating human rights? TBF many many countries have dirty hands, Qatar have rubbish H&S leading to deaths of workers who were probably slaves. 21 Chinese fellas died in Morecambe Bay working for a gang master - why? Cos Tory ferkin capitalism and a race to the bottom when it comes to workers rights. There is no righteous position, as a country, but by all means let's stand individually for something much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsub Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) On 16/02/2019 at 18:21, hippo said: Nobody told smith to bring an injury prone midfielder (carroll) nobody told smith to loan out O,Hare the defending was like the keystone cops today, falling over, kicking the ball against each other...in terms of organisation it looks worse than ever....thats a smith defence now...and true to form its conceeding 2 goals a game. its organisation not players. This happened in 2004 when we had a Labour socialist govt so not sure why this is a becuase of the "Tory ferkin capitalism"? Not sure what it's got to do with football either. Edited April 13, 2019 by Tomsub wrong quote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tomsub said: This happened in 2004 when we had a Labour socialist govt so not sure why this is a becuase of the "Tory ferkin capitalism"? Not sure what it's got to do with football either. Topic = Qatar and its position on killing people and aren't they clearly worse than us. Response = comment on Qatar and its position on killing people. By all means muddy the waters, but when it comes to an individual or two individuals owning Villa, let us just reflect on where we are from before pointing fingers. Also, New Labour were not socialists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsub Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Jareth said: TBF many many countries have dirty hands, Qatar have rubbish H&S leading to deaths of workers who were probably slaves. 21 Chinese fellas died in Morecambe Bay working for a gang master - why? Cos Tory ferkin capitalism and a race to the bottom when it comes to workers rights. There is no righteous position, as a country, but by all means let's stand individually for something much better. This happened in 2004 when we had a Labour socialist govt so not sure why this is a becuase of the "Tory ferkin capitalism"? Not sure what it's got to do with football either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tomsub said: This happened in 2004 when we had a Labour socialist govt so not sure why this is a becuase of the "Tory ferkin capitalism"? Not sure what it's got to do with football either. This also happened about half an hour ago in your previous comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 Where else but on Villatalk could a thread about a vague story of a possible takeover, possibly involving Villa - all completely unsubstantiated - sweep so wildly over topics such as Persian Gulf politics/human rights abuses, the Morecambe Bay cockle pickers and whether Tony Blair’s government was really “socialist”. I do really feel we are getting to the bottom of this story , guys! 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 12 hours ago, daggy_333 said: They're both multi billionaires, I don't think it will have been worth there while to sell the club for an extra 40/50 million each. Makes no sense whatsoever. Billionaires dont think like you and I though. A quick chance to make £50m Im sure they would at least consider it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, hippo said: Billionaires dont think like you and I though. A quick chance to make £50m Im sure they would at least consider it.. Yup, after all a quick 50 mill or so funds a purchase of a club like Villa, they didn't pay more than that for us did they? It's all profit and flipping into even bigger profit etc. That being said, if they build the right way, and hold out even longer, bring us to the Premier League with some success, infrastructure and foundation,. That 40 or 50 mill can become 400 or 500 mill. Edited April 13, 2019 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Tomsub said: This happened in 2004 when we had a Labour socialist govt so not sure why this is a becuase of the "Tory ferkin capitalism"? Not sure what it's got to do with football either. New Labour was not socialism. Please do not make false claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 19 hours ago, Skruff said: The systematic abuse and taking away the freedom from foreign workers has been wildly report from human rights organisations, journlaists, and officials from the origin country of workers. They have all the money in the world yet they have been practicing modern day slavery. Yes they have changed the laws, but with reluctance. And mostly due to international pressure. Add in death penalty for gays(by law but not practiced) I think you're right about the fact that there's a smearing campaign against them in terms of linking them with terrorism, the corruption accusations might be as well. But the other issues I've mentioned can't be excused. And I would say that's more enough reasons to be negative towards a Quatar ownership. Sent from my smartphone made in a factory that exploits its poorly paid workers in a country with a questionable human rights record. FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 13, 2019 Attitude of country of origin towards gay people is very important, unless it's Israel who love gay people and also apartheid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Probs click bait probs bollox but do you honestly think if given a healthy return on their investment they will turn down an offer from the Qatari’s ? Sawaris lives in LONDON but never attends villa park.... is that a sign of someone that emotionally invested in us ... ?! Right $$$ they will sell in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomsub Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Dick said: New Labour was not socialism. Please do not make false claims. So he should've said "new labour ferkin' capitalism" - I'm happy to agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 7 hours ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: FTFY No, I sent it from my do it yourself handcrafted papyrus 2.0 made soley from organically mined materials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 16 hours ago, Tomsub said: So he should've said "new labour ferkin' capitalism" - I'm happy to agree on that. You're right, it's just 'ferkin Capitalism' and it has a lot to do with football, actually, when human rights abuses are being committed in the name of it. General point but also related - football fans need to get serious about this. The so-called free market is breaking the game, allowing these utter scoundrels to ride roughshod over it taking what they want, including human lives, all so they can swing their massive bank balances around in lieu of their tiny dicks. People who think football should be sheltered from politics are a massive part of the problem. They're the guards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screwdriver Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 maybe edens and Sawaris bought us to tidy up the accounts, raise the profile, get us up and make a profit by selling us to someone bigger like qsg. they're the football version of edd china and mike brewer. I would be happy if they bought us out and they were serious about making a challenge for the premier league title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted April 14, 2019 Sawiris is the richest Arab in the world. Edens understands sports financing. I'll take stability, thank you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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