mjmooney Posted August 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2019 Sam Allardyce is to football what Ann Widdecombe is to politics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Genie said: I am still staggered at how closed your mind is. That there is more than 1 way to do something. That someone has a different view. We haven't even kicked a ball in the premier league yet but you're completely closed to the fact that we've pulled off a series of master strokes. Open your mind to other possibilities. You're selling your opinions as facts. You're labeling differing opinions as stupidity. No no no. I have reservations about it and i'm not 100% convinced that every signing will hit and we will be amazing. However, the alternative approach would have been ridiculous. This was the smart and ambitious thing to do. Will it work? No one knows yet but it was without a doubt the right thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: Sam Allardyce is to football what Ann Widdecombe is to politics. Sam Allardyce is to football what Ann Widdecombe is to football. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 So Villa. This is what happens when we just buy an England international keeper and a Zimbabwean midfielder and everyone gets an answer to the "what do we do about Green?" question and we loan a nipper to Cheltenham is it? I hope you're happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, mjmooney said: Sam Allardyce is to football what Ann Widdecombe is to politics. Post like this don't help. You don't have to love him, but he has a very good record as a manager. He was the national team coach.. but no, doesn't know what he's doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Genie said: pulled off a series of master strokes Good to see this thread getting back to what VT is best at... 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: Who’s Big Sam managing these days? His wasteline. Badly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Mat Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I reckon if we are integrating 4 or 5 at the start of a season, we may as well intergrate 10-12. I'd say by buying more in one go we're improving the probability that you'll get more new players being effective immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, romavillan said: The happy bus tends to have bricks thrown at it before it arrives here. We keep telling them to come round the M6 and down the Aston Expressway but for some reason they keep coming up through Small Heath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Will it work? No one knows yet but it was without a doubt the right thing to do You don't know if it will work but you do know that without doubt it was the right thing to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Genie said: Post like this don't help. You don't have to love him, but he has a very good record as a manager. He was the national team coach.. but no, doesn't know what he's doing Remind me how that went? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: Remind me how that went? Won every game he managed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Post like this don't help. You don't have to love him, but he has a very good record as a manager. He was the national team coach.. but no, doesn't know what he's doing He’s been an effective manager for middle of the road largely lower table PL clubs. His time as England manager and the way in which it ended are hardly any sort of positive endorsement. I'm not sure light hearted comments should be considered as anything other than what they are, light hearted. Although I personally think any comparison between Big Sam and Ann Widdecombe should be restricted to their respective pole dancing abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Genie said: Won every game he managed. Yeah all 1 of them. Slovakia. There was something else that happened during his tenure if I remember correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, TheStagMan said: Yeah all 1 of them. Slovakia. There was something else that happened during his tenure if I remember correctly. I'm not sure if this could be any more off topic and irrelevant if you tried. He left by mutual consent for a non football related incident (as you know). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Genie said: You don't know if it will work but you do know that without doubt it was the right thing to do? Of course. The alternative was so ridiculous. There are no guaranteed ways to do it so no one knows. Unless all of a sudden you're the guy to figure out the exact way to plan and carry out guaranteed success in professional football. Listening to Big Sam makes me think you probably aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Won every game he managed. Widdecombe unbeaten as England manager too!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Sam's comments to me were made off the cuff and out of a lack of research on what has happened at Villa since the playoff. His advice to sign 3-4 quality players would have given us a solid first XI and then kids and semi retired old pros as backup. A sure fire recipe for relegation. While of course it's not ideal to integrate so many players at once it's the really only viable option in my view. And while there's always risk attached, Smith and co have done their best to mitigate the risks with a careful process of finding players that suit his system and have some pre-existing relationships with each other or at least have the sorts of personalities that suit the broader collective. You can see that in how many of our signings Dean has said he's been tracking for a long time. This is not some slapdash mad minute shopping experience, it's been well planned and extremely well executed. Of course that guarantees nothing when the big show gets underway, but they've given it a bloody good shake. The beauty is if disaster strikes and we are relegated, we will have a young, talented squad full of players who will either commit to the cause of bringing us back up, or who we'll be able to cash in on to mitigate the costs of relegation and allow us to resupply with good young talent. So I can understand the nervousness, but in my view the club has played an absolute blinder this window. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Genie said: You don't know if it will work but you do know that without doubt it was the right thing to do? Of course we don't know how it will work out but we have given ourselves the best chance of a good season. I don't think anyone can disagree we have had a superb transfer window and Thank you to the owners for that. It's now down to Dean and his team to produce. I'm confident they will UTV Edited August 2, 2019 by pintpotvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, TheStagMan said: Yeah all 1 of them. Slovakia. There was something else that happened during his tenure if I remember correctly. Playing a bit of "pocket billiards" after the embarrassing end to his very short England career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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