colhint Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, thabucks said: Shawcross stretchered off for stoke today with a bad sounding ankle injury. How about we offer them Chester plus £15million and the choice of Revan or Green on loan ... worth a punt ? Why would we offer all that for Shawcross, he's injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: My friend, i have been talking about facts (due to experience) not speculations. Lets just wait and see shall we? I doubt it, but if Birkir somehow turns out to be a perfect fit in the PL I will be very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, thabucks said: Shawcross stretchered off for stoke today with a bad sounding ankle injury. How about we offer them Chester plus £15million and the choice of Revan or Green on loan ... worth a punt ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 27, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, osmark86 said: Lets just wait and see shall we? I doubt it, but if Birkir somehow turns out to be a perfect fit in the PL I will be very happy. Im not saying that he would be perfect fit for PL But if you look at experience (national, top 4 league in europe) then there are nobody else who have that experience. This experience is very valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Bjarnason has also played in the champions league. I think one thing that people seem to forget is that we actually play him out of position, before he came to us he'd never played as a defensive midfielder, he always played as an attacking midfielder or on the left-wing, and to be fair he had a pretty good goal-scoring record as well. Edited July 27, 2019 by useless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Jonsi77 said: Im not saying that he would be perfect fit for PL But if you look at experience (national, top 4 league in europe) then there are nobody else who have that experience. This experience is very valuable. I personally think that this PL experience factor is a bit clichéed and overrated tbh. Good footballers are good footballers and the teams and their respective players change over time. Birkir imo is not as good a footballer as our other options imo and after a few games our squad as a whole will have PL experience anyhow, whether beneficial or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: Im not saying that he would be perfect fit for PL But if you look at experience (national, top 4 league in europe) then there are nobody else who have that experience. This experience is very valuable. Experience and competence are two entirely different things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 27, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, osmark86 said: I personally think that this PL experience factor is a bit clichéed and overrated tbh. Good footballers are good footballers and the teams and their respective players change over time. Birkir imo is not as good a footballer as our other options imo and after a few games our squad as a whole will have PL experience anyhow, whether beneficial or not. I think PL experience is huge, most of the newly promoted teams last years who have choose to go in the league without it (apart from Burnley and Wolves) have been relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: I think PL experience is huge, most of the newly promoted teams last years who have choose to go in the league without it (apart from Burnley and Wolves) have been relegated. Wrong articles have been done about this. It's a stupid throwaway line from Talksport idiots and the like. Here is blog article with lots of recent examples https://underagaslitlamp.com/2019/07/08/assessing-the-importance-of-premier-league-experience-in-transfers/ Edited July 27, 2019 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 27, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Experience and competence are two entirely different things. You gain experience through competence. Sampdoria, Basel, Pescara saw it at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, colhint said: Why would we offer all that for Shawcross, he's injured. **** Must proof read ... I meant for Butland ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, penguin said: See above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: I think PL experience is huge, most of the newly promoted teams last years who have choose to go in the league without it (apart from Burnley and Wolves) have been relegated. Yes but playing International football against Premier League players is not the same as Premier League experience!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 27, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Yes but playing International football against Premier League players is not the same as Premier League experience!! I know, but if you have played well and score versus top PL players in national games and played wll in Serie A you are closer to that experience than other in the squad who havent play in top 4 league and national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Jonsi77 said: I know, but if you have played well and score versus top PL players in national games and played wll in Serie A you are closer to that experience than other in the squad who havent play in top 4 league and national. Can't you take this to Birkir thread so I don't have to read your constant obsessive posts about him? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Can't you take this to Birkir thread so I don't have to read your constant obsessive posts about him? Did someone say Birkir? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonsi77 Posted July 27, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Can't you take this to Birkir thread so I don't have to read your constant obsessive posts about him? Just pinpointing facts - no obsessions or speculations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 7 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: This we that you speak of? It’s a football forum where every opinion is different from everyone else, I think he is good enough You think everyone in the world is good enough. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: You think everyone in the world is good enough. When have I said that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jonsi77 said: Just pinpointing facts - no obsessions or speculations The fact is Thor hasn’t got any PL experience. Playing against PL players in international matches is nothing like playing in the PL. Whether PL experience is beneficial or not, if you want to base your argument on facts, he simply hasn’t got any PL experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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