Rob182 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 TL;DR TL;DR TL;DR I read the 4th one and it was a load of old bollocks TL;DR Spoiler Spoiler... I didn't even read the 4th one 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I think Dave wants to say something.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dave-R said: To us it will be a success so long as we stay in the premier, yet if we just stay in the prem others will still say we failed as there's no pleasing anyone. We have spent alot and in my eyes so long as they keep us from being relegated we have done the tough task but those who are not fans of us, pundits, media, basically everyone else will keep throwing that Fulham jibe at us thinking we have failed when really all our Owners will want for now is to keep alive in the top flight. With the amount of players we let go after winning promotion it was rocket science to see that we were always going to spend a small fortune. We had to replace what we had let go, we had to replace with better quality and when you do let nine players go I am shocked that the people throwing that Fulham crap out couldn't see this one coming. I would say we have spent the money wisely in players that are more than very capable. We could of started splashing 30 to 40 mill on a player and it would of tripped the Fulham crisis and we most certainly would of failed then because top quality thrown together doesnt guarentee success. Only time will tell on whether we have done the right thing or not, good coaching and management with the players brought in will be key here, can Smith show this league what hes truly made of? i think he can. Read some article about some guy saying having that many different cultures in the premier is indeed tough to control and you shouldn't do it like we have and we will basically fail because of that alone as there's to much management to be done in that terms. I don't agree with what's been said and while yes the language barriers can be a problem, I don't think any of the players we have signed cant speak English very good at least so it shouldnt be a problem. To all those already thinking we've failed, I am looking forward more to the season in hope that we go out and prove them how wrong they are. If we pull it off then they will be eating more than there words, they will start to fear us on the pitch again because at this moment in time tbey just see us as a sticky taped team put together as quickly as it got ripped apart after the play off final. we've kept our core and we always knew the team was going to be built around the likes of Grealish and Mcginn, now it has and were pretty much set on paper our squad could more than do abit of damage on the field. I would say we most certainly need 1 more decent striker, we do need a right winger as well to compete with Jota, we need two to three more midfielders and most certainly a keeper for competition with Steer. How long is left on the transfer market,, a month??? there's still plenty of business that can be done between now and then and I'm sure we will be seeing some more excellent signings along the way. Sheffield United has been bargain bin dipping with their transfers, Norwich has been fairly quiet, Burnley has an aging squad of grafters, Brighton's squad lacks quality, Newcastle has a cabbage manager and Palace seen to be losing their best players. Surely we should finish above those teams?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Sheffield United has been bargain bin dipping with their transfers, Norwich has been fairly quiet, Burnley has an aging squad of grafters, Brighton's squad lacks quality, Newcastle has a cabbage manager and Palace seen to be losing their best players. Surely we should finish above those teams?! To be fair all those teams are probably looking at us as a team to finish above. Its really hard to know how good we will be. So many unknowns in the team. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Apparently Brighton are bookmakers favourites to sign Maupay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Tommo_b said: Apparently Brighton are bookmakers favourites to sign Maupay. I Hove they don’t manage to sign him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I think we need six more DMs 4 RBs at least three new working goal keepers and one that is in need of a service 0.12% of a striker from Italy 100% of a player on strike from Belgium 0% advice from washed up former players or corrupt former managers a vending machine with magical powers back up for Maud the Tea Lady who recently had violent squitters and could do with a day off a hilarious poem by Pam Ayres a cobb salad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post omariqy Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) I think people underestimate what good teams Sheff Utd and Norwich are. We had to buy this many players in order to stand still. Luiz, a GK, another MF and ST will see us improve I think. Those teams have good settled teams already and know how to play together. That counts for a lot. I think Norwich especially will surprise a few. Edited July 24, 2019 by omariqy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, VillanousOne said: I think we need six more DMs4 RBs at least three new working goal keepers and one that is in need of a service 0.12% of a striker from Italy 100% of a player on strike from Belgium 0% advice from washed up former players or corrupt former managers a vending machine with magical powers back up for Maud the Tea Lady who recently had violent squitters and could do with a day off a hilarious poem by Pam Ayres a cobb salad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I Hove they don’t manage to sign him Edited July 24, 2019 by maqroll 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob182 Posted July 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, VILLAMARV said: I thought black was meant to be slimming 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I Hove they don’t manage to sign him Hopefully it's all just Amex up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, omariqy said: I think people underestimate what good teams Sheff Utd and Norwich are. We had to buy this many players in order to stand still. Luiz, a GK, another MF and ST will see us improve I think. Those teams have good settled teams already and know how to play together. That counts for a lot. I think Norwich especially will surprise a few. Norwich looked a worse team than us for the majority of our game at Villa Park which they needed to win to be champions and we rested all of our key players. We weren't behind anyone towards the end of the season, it was our early poor start and downturn when Jack was injured that allowed them to get away from us. The final Dean Smith team that won 10 in a row are at least equal to them if not better. Edited July 24, 2019 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Norwich looked a worse team then us for the majority of our game at Villa Park which they needed to win to be champions and we rested all of our key players. We weren't behind anyone towards the end of the season, it was our early poor start and downturn when Jack was injured that allowed them to get away from us. The final Dean Smith team that won 10 in a row are at least equal to them if not better. Agreed. Villa at their best last season were better than any other Championship side at their best IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, Rob182 said: I thought black was meant to be slimming You should see him in white!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 This is the sort of link I like .... shit source perhaps but good to see us looking at this type of player. https://www.football.london/crystal-palace-fc/transfer-news/crystal-palace-vying-aston-villa-16639946 Quote Crystal Palace and Aston Villa are among the clubs vying for the signature of Jonathan Afolabi whilst the young striker is guiding the Republic of Ireland into the last four of the Under-19 European Championships. Afolabi left Southampton at the end of the season after rejecting a contract offer and has attracted interest from numerous clubs in England and abroad, with sides from Russia and Spain having also expressed an interest in the forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave-R said: Sorry about that everyone don't know why it did that on my phone and duplicate it about four times. i thought you had developed a stutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 No-one has mentioned that Dean Smith is a specialist in getting a much less costly team to perform to the level of, and compete with, the much wealthier big boys of the division. He has been doing this successfully for years at Walsall and Brentford. He has been used to losing his best players and buying/bringing in new cheaper versions (who he would have had much less visibility of or resources to find/polish) and making them much better players and work as a relatively strong unit - look at the success he has had with the development of Konsa,Maupay and Benrahma who were bought for peanuts by Brentford. With us, he has kept his best players and replaced the lower performers - surely an even easier task. He also demonstrated, from January on, how easy he found it to integrate new players ... Mings and Hause, and Jed also given that he had rarely played, looked like they had been with us for years (the latter after the first couple of games admittedly) without any pre-season or gelling time. This is helped, as has been pointed out several times, by the fact that 3 of the signings are returning loans and 2 of them played for Smith & O'Kelly up until 7/8 months ago. So only four "new" players at this stage and Trez is well known to Elmo, Luiz and Wes will be able to engage, etc.. I think it's been a smart window and we have the right team in place to work with these recruits and the right core to welcome them in. Maupay and Benrahma would be excellent further additions carrying on the theme of getting people in who know each other and Dean and O'Kelly. I am very positive and really excited to see how he can develop this bunch of players. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: No-one has mentioned that Dean Smith is a specialist in getting a much less costly team to perform to the level of, and compete with, the much wealthier big boys of the division. He has been doing this successfully for years at Walsall and Brentford. He has been used to losing his best players and buying/bringing in new cheaper versions (who he would have had much less visibility of or resources to find/polish) and making them much better players and work as a relatively strong unit - look at the success he has had with the development of Konsa,Maupay and Benrahma who were bought for peanuts by Brentford. With us, he has kept his best players and replaced the lower performers - surely an even easier task. He also demonstrated, from January on, how easy he found it to integrate new players ... Mings and Hause, and Jed also given that he had rarely played, looked like they had been with us for years (the latter after the first couple of games admittedly) without any pre-season or gelling time. This is helped, as has been pointed out several times, by the fact that 3 of the signings are returning loans and 2 of them played for Smith & O'Kelly up until 7/8 months ago. So only four "new" players at this stage and Trez is well known to Elmo, Luiz and Wes will be able to engage, etc.. I think it's been a smart window and we have the right team in place to work with these recruits and the right core to welcome them in. Maupay and Benrahma would be excellent further additions carrying on the theme of getting people in who know each other and Dean and O'Kelly. I am very positive and really excited to see how he can develop this bunch of players. I agree....does Sam really know him, He may think he does....Dean is from a slightly different generation to Sam, I think he underestimates Dean to blend this Phalanx of players. Its easy to make general comparisons, but like you say Dean has shown a good example of getting the best out of previous signings. Sams comments are tired and lazy generalizations of managers who have done little to blend their signings....just let them loose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Brentford do seem to be playing hard ball with us over Maupay & Benerama. Is it the Dean Smith factor, where they would prefer to sell them to someone else? Maybe the latter has been fixed by Trezeguet arriving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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