KAZZAM Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Maupay playing up for Brentford now would be time to make an offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Maupay playing up for Brentford now would be time to make an offer. Playing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 13, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: Playing up? Didn't play for them today. Suspect he's had his head turned by something. They told him to take the weekend off in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, hippo said: Fulham spent £100m and went straight back down. They are the exception though - they are only big spenders who went down We had no choice but to assemble a new team. Smith built a promotion winning team with someone elses players - so I am quietly confident he can do it with his own players. Yep I read out of 6 promoted teams that spent more than 50 million they are the only team to go down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Although it's rumoured that Brentford are asking for £20m for Maupay, I think that we will be able to get him for less. Something like £17.5m would be a decent price for us and Brentford. I do wonder if Brentford would take Hogan as part of a deal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Although it's rumoured that Brentford are asking for £20m for Maupay, I think that we will be able to get him for less. Something like £17.5m would be a decent price for us and Brentford. I do wonder if Brentford would take Hogan as part of a deal as well. They wouldnt take Hogan, not a chance. Honestly anyone who even remotely thinks they would take Hogan, please go and do some research about Brentford and how they operate. Then come back and tell me why they wouldn't do it, rather than me have to explain it Edited July 13, 2019 by MaVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KH** Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Although it's rumoured that Brentford are asking for £20m for Maupay, I think that we will be able to get him for less. Something like £17.5m would be a decent price for us and Brentford. I do wonder if Brentford would take Hogan as part of a deal as well. We’d probably have to pay extra to include Hogan in the deal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Posted July 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tayls said: I can’t help but be a tiny bit concerned that we are signing too many new players, and changing too much from what we had last season, which got us promoted after a 10 game winning streak. When has it ever worked for a team changing so much playing personnel? Especially one coming up from the division below? Dont get me wrong, exciting signings being made. All of this is great fun... We still have Jack, John and thankfully now Tyrone. For me, along with Tammy and Axel (who we have been unable to bring back due to circumstances beyond our control) they were probably the most crucial components to our success last season. To those, we can add players that also made big contributions such as El Ghazi, Hause, Elmo, Steer and Conor, so we have retained as much of the nucleus of last season's squad as was feasible. We have also added some quality players to these and will add some more. It's a pity last season's squad had to be broken up and the whole squad have earned their place in our club's proud history, but time doesn't stand still and difficult and harsh decisions did need to be made following our promotion. As you have so rightly said, we are currently having great fun and we have made some exciting signings already. I'm confident that the players we have retained along with Dean and his staff, can get our new boys quickly integrated and firing effectively by the season start. The changes we have needed to make can work for us, we're not Fulham. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Tayls said: When has it ever worked for a team changing so much playing personnel? Especially one coming up from the division below? Watford I think. Didn’t they sign 15 players and have a new manager the season they came up? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: I do wonder if Brentford would take Hogan as part of a deal as well. They would have to do battle with Stoke, who are bound to insist on him being part of the deal that brings Butland to Villa Park as well......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: I thought he played well consistantly from February. Ask me before that and I'd happily have sent him back like Yannick. Still got lots to learn but remember he was involved at the top level with Ajax for season or two. Needs a good start to the season. If he does can see him doing well at prem level. Took a few months to settle, was fantastic from Feb, will be great in the Premier League. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2019 El Ghazi is a supremely talented individual and I'm confident he's going to prove it on the big stage. When I say that I mean it in a realistic sense, along the lines of an Arnautovic rather than a Ronaldo. I think those who aren't rating him aren't looking at the progression in a linear sense. They are jumbling up bad El Ghazi with average El Ghazi and really fudging good El Ghazi, as if that progression was a mirage. Does he suffer from confidence issues? Maybe. But the talent was always there and Smith managed to bring it out of him. Why assume that will stop? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 12/07/2019 at 23:27, MaVilla said: Kodjia scored: 2015/16 - 19 in 45 (BCFC) 2016/17 - 0 in 4 (BCFC) 2016/17 - 19 in 26 (AVFC) 2017/18 - 1 in 15 (AVFC) 2018/19 - 9 in 39 (AVFC) thats 48 goals in 139 championship games. I didn't mean to imply you were wrong if that is what you thought. 38 in 75 is a brilliant goal return. 10 in 54 Is less so but when you think that 15 of those he was obviously still recovering from a serious injury, and arguably all of them. He also played out of position most of this year and mostly played as a sub. If he played full minutes he probably would of scored around 20 again this year. I was just saying kodjia ~1/3 goal to game ratio is deceptively low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 hours ago, HKP90 said: Forgot about Tish. We need to sell his ass. Not like that. Stop sniggering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, MotoMkali said: I didn't mean to imply you were wrong if that is what you thought. 38 in 75 is a brilliant goal return. 10 in 54 Is less so but when you think that 15 of those he was obviously still recovering from a serious injury, and arguably all of them. He also played out of position most of this year and mostly played as a sub. If he played full minutes he probably would of scored around 20 again this year. I was just saying kodjia ~1/3 goal to game ratio is deceptively low. Agree massively with this! Kodjia fully fit, starting matches and in his natural position gets you goals all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Unfortunately Kodj’s work rate just isn’t what it needs to be to succeed in the Prem. Hopefully Bruce makes a stupid offer and we can sell him to the Geordies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 8 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: El Ghazi is a supremely talented individual and I'm confident he's going to prove it on the big stage. When I say that I mean it in a realistic sense, along the lines of an Arnautovic rather than a Ronaldo. I think those who aren't rating him aren't looking at the progression in a linear sense. They are jumbling up bad El Ghazi with average El Ghazi and really fudging good El Ghazi, as if that progression was a mirage. Does he suffer from confidence issues? Maybe. But the talent was always there and Smith managed to bring it out of him. Why assume that will stop? It was physicality of English league he suffered with at start. Most players coming from another league do. Its why alot don’t make it. He got to grips with it and why he was a revelation in last 15 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, HeyAnty said: It was physicality of English league he suffered with at start. Most players coming from another league do. Its why alot don’t make it. He got to grips with it and why he was a revelation in last 15 games I agree. I do think confidence played a part too. Without him, I don’t think we’d have scored two goals in the play off final either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 9 hours ago, John said: We still have Jack, John and thankfully now Tyrone. For me, along with Tammy and Axel (who we have been unable to bring back due to circumstances beyond our control) they were probably the most crucial components to our success last season. To those, we can add players that also made big contributions such as El Ghazi, Hause, Elmo, Steer and Conor, so we have retained as much of the nucleus of last season's squad as was feasible. We have also added some quality players to these and will add some more. It's a pity last season's squad had to be broken up and the whole squad have earned their place in our club's proud history, but time doesn't stand still and difficult and harsh decisions did need to be made following our promotion. As you have so rightly said, we are currently having great fun and we have made some exciting signings already. I'm confident that the players we have retained along with Dean and his staff, can get our new boys quickly integrated and firing effectively by the season start. The changes we have needed to make can work for us, we're not Fulham. We are not Fulham and I can’t see us changing manager 3 times in a year. Plus they essentially brought in a load of players and tried to work out how they fit as oppose to what I feel we are doing which is buy players to fit how DS wants to play. Also they dropped Cairney who I know is not as good but is almost time us dropping Jack which I think really effected them by driving a wedge between new and old players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: We are not Fulham and I can’t see us changing manager 3 times in a year. Plus they essentially brought in a load of players and tried to work out how they fit as oppose to what I feel we are doing which is buy players to fit how DS wants to play. Also they dropped Cairney who I know is not as good but is almost time us dropping Jack which I think really effected them by driving a wedge between new and old players. I’m just looking at Fulham’s transfers and most of the 100m was spent on 4 players. One of them that was already in the team for half a season. It’s hard to work out what happened with Fulham without following them. From the outside looking in it seems they sacked their manager too early and should have just stuck with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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