Keener window-cleaner Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, Xela said: The highlighted is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read on here... and i've seen a lot. You've embarrassed yourself here mate. Or we can accept that others have different opinions Personally I can understand that Terry might been seen in different lights. My opinion on him is that he is one of the modern day PL defenders who reads the game the best, very intelligent player and has a great passing ability, not at least his long range passing with both feet. At the same time his technique when it comes to ball control, turning etc can sometimes be a bit dodgy and has now and then fumbled with the ball, also in his prime. He has never had much pace, but has relied on his reading of the game and his bravery. I think the fact that he was at Chelsea for so long, especially during their most succesful period where he also played with other good players, his leadership qualities and that he captained Chelse for that long period has created somewhat of a myth about him. Had he changed clubs and not won the titles he did I'm not sure if the myth would be as strong. So in the Chelsea context he is a legend, not necessarily strictly playing wise. As for his year in the Championship, for his contribution on the pitch I would say good is a fair verdict. He was injured for quite some time. He had a couple of games where he was immense, and a couple of games where you could see he was slow, slow in the turn, slow to get to the ground. I think his main contribution was to steady the dressing room, being a role model for Jack and others, not what he actually did on the pitch. Wouldn't say that the Chester/Terry partnership was that much better than the Chester/Baker partership. And for not liking the person Terry of several reasons there are things he has done, the racial abuse for example, that I understand that ppl would turn against him for. From what most ppl say about him and what managers have said I would regard him mostly as a role model, someone I look up to and have respect for. I for example very much appreciate what he said about begining from the start as a manager, admitting he has much to learn and not being afraid of putting out the cones and handing out the bibs. It was a humble, responsible and mature side of his. I don't think @sir_gary_cahill embarrassed himself here, but just said his opinion, that might not be what most people here think of Terry including myself, but still in parts may be warrented depending on what sides of Terry's game or personal life you focus on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I would? Good to know yep, the same way we'd all think the signing was lunacy if Benraham's name was John Carpenter! Edited June 10, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Have you seen that dude tho?, he's like forest Gump.....it's like he has a rocket up his arse. Yup. Obscene pace. But I bet they are paying 6-7 mill extra just cause he's English. Out of interest is the homegrown rule still exactly as it was 2-3 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, MaVilla said: and again......ooooh Yorkie!! Ooh what a game that was! Tommy J on the hattrick! Was that the game he threw up as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Yup. Obscene pace. But I bet they are paying 6-7 mill extra just cause he's English. Out of interest is the homegrown rule still exactly as it was 2-3 years ago? Somebody should have told them he was Welsh. Could have save a few million Agree he is rapid! Edited June 10, 2019 by Vive_La_Villa 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, omariqy said: I actually remember being at my grandads house in Brum following this match on Ceefax. I was in the trinity road by the dug out. Memories.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) Even if the Fornals link was true it's one I find odd. He's very similar to Jota/Jack, as good of a player he seems I don't think he'd be right for us. We need proper width and goals from midfield which he doesn't offer either. I think the lad from Brentford would offer more goal wise. I want to emphasise on goals from midfield as well if we don't get that I think we're straight back down. I also think Fornals would have offers from likes of Arsenal. Therefore I call bullshit and I've probably wastes 2 minutes of my life thinking about it. Edited June 10, 2019 by VillaAlex Phone autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Or we can accept that others have different opinions Personally I can understand that Terry might been seen in different lights. My opinion on him is that he is one of the modern day PL defenders who reads the game the best, very intelligent player and has a great passing ability, not at least his long range passing with both feet. At the same time his technique when it comes to ball control, turning etc can sometimes be a bit dodgy and has now and then fumbled with the ball, also in his prime. He has never had much pace, but has relied on his reading of the game and his bravery. I think the fact that he was at Chelsea for so long, especially during their most succesful period where he also played with other good players, his leadership qualities and that he captained Chelse for that long period has created somewhat of a myth about him. Had he changed clubs and not won the titles he did I'm not sure if the myth would be as strong. So in the Chelsea context he is a legend, not necessarily strictly playing wise. As for his year in the Championship, for his contribution on the pitch I would say good is a fair verdict. He was injured for quite some time. He had a couple of games where he was immense, and a couple of games where you could see he was slow, slow in the turn, slow to get to the ground. I think his main contribution was to steady the dressing room, being a role model for Jack and others, not what he actually did on the pitch. Wouldn't say that the Chester/Terry partnership was that much better than the Chester/Baker partership. And for not liking the person Terry of several reasons there are things he has done, the racial abuse for example, that I understand that ppl would turn against him for. From what most ppl say about him and what managers have said I would regard him mostly as a role model, someone I look up to and have respect for. I for example very much appreciate what he said about begining from the start as a manager, admitting he has much to learn and not being afraid of putting out the cones and handing out the bibs. It was a humble, responsible and mature side of his. I don't think @sir_gary_cahill embarrassed himself here, but just said his opinion, that might not be what most people here think of Terry including myself, but still in parts may be warrented depending on what sides of Terry's game or personal life you focus on. I've no issue with different opinions. However when that opinion is clearly contrary to what is generally accepted and confirmed then it deserves to be questioned. Terry, without doubt, is of the greatest defenders this country has ever produced. Its pretty much a fact. As for him as a person, well thats for each person to form an opinion on. Being a 'scumbag' doesn't make him a worse player does it? He has done some very questionable things in his life but we weren't talking about that, we were talking about his footballing ability against that of Cahill. I've nothing against @sir_gary_cahill at all, and if it seems that way then I apologise to him. I love his enthusiasm for your younger players, but if you are going to make bold and controversial statements then you have to expect a reaction. Anyway, enough of Terry, have we bloody signed Mings yet?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Even if the Fornals link was true it's one I find odd. He's very similar to Jota/Jack, as good of a player he seems I don't think he'd be right for us. We need proper width and goals from midfield which he doesn't offer either. I might be wrong but didn't Smith play very narrow wingers at Brentford? It might be the plan to play a narrow 3 behind the striker, subject to buying quick attack minded fullbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted June 10, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, av1 said: I might be wrong but didn't Smith play very narrow wingers at Brentford? It might be the plan to play a narrow 3 behind the striker, subject to buying quick attack minded fullbacks. No very wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Uncle Albert said: I was in the trinity road by the dug out. Memories.. For that 7-1 Wimbledon game I was sat in my season ticket seat at time right next to the tunnel first seat, front row in Lower Trinity. I used collect all villa players and opposition players autograph by tunnel every game think I got Sam Hammam’s autograph that day. Great memories indeed. Edited June 10, 2019 by Villan4Life 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mazrim Posted June 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2019 I remember coming home and checking Ceefax to find out that Villa had si n d a mas i e int rna ion l sup rst r in hu e tra fer!!! 4 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Whats Tonev up to now a days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Even if the Fornals link was true it's one I find odd. He's very similar to Jota/Jack, as good of a player he seems I don't think he'd be right for us. These players are pretty different - which one is Fornals more like? I know absolutely sod all about the guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demitri_C Posted June 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Whats Tonev up to now a days. He has been sent up to space to retrieve all the balls he hit up there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: He has been sent up to space to retrieve all the balls he hit up there. Small step for Tonev, giant leap for the ball boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alreadyexists Posted June 10, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Whats Tonev up to now a days. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: The news that we had just signed Emile Heskey took some beating Yeah. Terrible. I wasn’t right for weeks after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brumerican Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: I don't think @sir_gary_cahill embarrassed himself here, S Sorry but even my dog cringed when I read SGC's Terry posts to him and my dog only watches La Liga and golf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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