PompeyVillan Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Surely they would be desperate for a general election, so that they can begin the revolution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2019 1 minute ago, PompeyVillan said: Surely they would be desperate for a general election, so that they can begin the revolution? They aren't ready for a general election. They're barely ready to be a party. Plus in an individual level I'd hazard a guess a few are worried about their seats. They need to be prepared to bet that THEY are popular in their seats, and not just their former parties. A bad election could kill them in their cot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chindie said: They aren't ready for a general election. They're barely ready to be a party. Plus in an individual level I'd hazard a guess a few are worried about their seats. They need to be prepared to bet that THEY are popular in their seats, and not just their former parties. A bad election could kill them in their cot. Happened to a lot of the SDP defectors in '83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 14 hours ago, bickster said: Do you mean the scheduled European Elections? The last thing this country needed was a General Election and even Corbyn likes to point out that you vote for a person not a party. (And this shouldn't be read as some sort of tacit support for the TIG) No-one seems to have called for Frank Field to have a by-election or Jared O'Mara, why is that? Allow me to go on record saying I would love it if Frank Field and Jared O'Mara (and Fiona Onasanya, come to that) quit and there were by-elections. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 31, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Allow me to go on record saying I would love it if Frank Field and Jared O'Mara (and Fiona Onasanya, come to that) quit and there were by-elections. You loving it is hardly the same thing though is it. Fiona Jailbird is a different matter and a situation I do think should trigger a by-election (Same for the Tory from Brecon and Radnorshire whose name escapes me for a minute) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: You loving it is hardly the same thing though is it. Fiona Jailbird is a different matter and a situation I do think should trigger a by-election (Same for the Tory from Brecon and Radnorshire whose name escapes me for a minute) Yes, MP's who get criminal convictions shouldn't be able to continue. O'Mara should step down from being an MP. It's hard to say it, and I really wish I wasn't saying it, but I think the evidence is very clear that he's incapable of doing the job adequately. Field I'm on the wind-up with. I just don't like the bloke, which is obviously not a reason for him to step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted April 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2019 What is the point of these people? It probably won't, because in the end, most people were probably not paying attention, and most journalists for some reason decided not to press them on their voting last night, but if their brand was 'compromise-seeking' 'moderates' who 'work across party lines' then last night should have put an end to that. I can't think of a Brexit position I dislike more than 'a second referendum and nothing else'. Even supporting No Deal is at least supporting something, even if that thing is dreadful. However, a second referendum is simply a process. If you're not willing to help pick a credible Leave option to place on the ballot paper, then you aren't in favour of creating an actual second referendum. We've done this before, but a referendum cannot simply be between 'Leave' and 'Remain' again (Leave won that three years ago, and it doesn't solve any problems) and cannot be between 'A Credible Leave Option' and 'Remain' until the former has emerged. Remainers in Parliament last night essentially had the chance to not only get their referendum, but also to pick their opponent in that referendum, but no, these guys calculated that might mean an election some time soon so they canned it. Whatever it is, it's not moderate, and it doesn't work across party lines. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Surely as the only deal the EU have agreed, the only thing that can be put on the ballot would be May's deal, up against remain. That seems like a much better referendum to me where people know what they're voting and campaigning for this time. I think it's a sensible position to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Also baffling that they have two names. Just pick one and stick with it FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Just pick one and stick with it FFS FFS is a different group altogether - For Our Future's Sake (FFS) is more eco than Brexit. Oh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 "join us and lets start changing politics today" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 They're doing a bang up job of demonstrating that shambolic, tin-eared incompetence doesn't need to be solely the preserve of established political parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 They are the gift that keeps on giving: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Oops Quote New centrist party Change UK was dragged into another racism row on Tuesday after it emerged one of its candidates had made derogatory comments about Romanians. Ali Sadjady, a former Tory who was unveiled by the new group as a candidate for London in the European Parliament on Tuesday, was accused of joining in “hate speech” against EU citizens. It has also emerged that he has a history of making potentially sexist comments about women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 So my bro phoned. "Who are change UK? is that the new Farage party?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 It's just one of those tinge. Quote Change UK has been dragged into yet another racism row after one of its candidates was accused of pedalling “anti-Muslim tropes” and “legitimising the far right”. Nora Mulready, who is standing for the party in the coming European parliament elections, had conflated Islam with terrorism, suggesting it was a “fallacy that Islamism is nothing to do with Islam” and that radical Islamism could be “Koranically justified”. In separate comments she also said the concerns of far-right leader Tommy Robinson should be addressed because he had “hit [a] societal nerve and that needs to be acknowledged”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Do love this photo, with at least two middle-aged people caught in mid-orgasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 24/04/2019 at 19:14, peterms said: It's just one of those tinge. Nora Mulready, who is standing for the party in the coming European parliament elections, had conflated Islam with terrorism, suggesting it was a “fallacy that Islamism is nothing to do with Islam” and that radical Islamism could be “Koranically justified”. Is she wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2019 Cringing so hard the cringe quota for the rest of the century might have been used up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chindie said: Cringing so hard the cringe quota for the rest of the century might have been used up. just look at the way she slowly places her hands on the lectern to a pitter patter of applause like she’s Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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