LakotaDakota Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Mic09 said: Don't get me wrong, I don't want a discussion about the idea of tax. That's for another thread. I want to know why I can't plug my TV in and watch Netflix without paying the BBC £150 a year or whatever the rate is now. That's the question. you can. As long as you are not watching BBC or watching/recording live broadcasts you do not need a license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: you can. As long as you are not watching BBC or watching/recording live broadcasts you do not need a license Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Wrong. no it isn't If you are not watching or recording live tv as it is broadcast, Not watching BBC or iplayer you do not need a license at all. The act of owning a TV does not require a license payment Edited June 11, 2019 by LakotaDakota 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: no it isn't If you are not watching or recording live tv as it is broadcast, Not watching BBC or iplayer you do not need a license at all. The act of owning a TV does not require a license payment This is correct, changed in the 2003 Communications Act. It does mean you can't watch the tennis live on Amazon Prime though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The whole thing is pretty stupid though. Say you wanted to record bake off on sky/virgin to watch later that evening you would need a license but if you just watched it later on catch up you would not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, blandy said: It is a public service - it provides educational programming for schools and Uni's. It's mission is to inform, educate and entertain. It provides free radio stations and websites. it also runs the world service radio abroad, acting (sometimes) as part of the foreign office and UK "message" to the world, for the benefit of the UK culturally, tourism etc. Sure it's not as critical as the NHS, but then other public services aren't as important either - from things already mentioned - leisure centres, sports pitches, schools even (for people without kids) and so on. Edit - they also, by law have to show things like the world cup and so on, so that everyone with a TV can watch them, not just Sky subscribers or BT sport or AMazon subscriptions. If the WC went to ppv or subscription telly, we'd be deprived (or have to pay a high price) to watch them. Also worth mentioning the huge advancement in broadcast technology influenced by the BBC's R&D department. People may want to just plug in their tv and stream content by other providers, but the ability to do those things wouldn't exist to the same level without them. When you pay the licence fee you are also paying for the continued development of technology that makes it easier for you to access better quality content in other ways and from other providers. There's also plenty of other areas besides pure tv and radio where their research have advanced things (coding and programming, audio recording and acoustics etc). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2019 Quote Public broadcasting includes radio, television and other electronic media outlets whose primary mission is public service. In much of the world, funding comes from the government, especially via annual fees charged on receivers Wiki Its not just a British thing as some politicians would have you believe. Its a fairly accepted model across the world. Unless of course you happen to be Nigel Farage, The DUP, The ERG, other Tory throbbers Rupert Murdoch, any of the other dispicable Media Barons an on and on It's only even in our thoughts because of the above named Twunts and their like. Yes every dog has it's day and is right once in a while but that many dogs having a good day all at once is unprecidented. If they all think scrapping the licence fee is a good idea, you can pretty much guarantee it isn't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Ingram85 said: Does the BBC save multiple lives on a daily basis? You could probably make a case that the shipping forecast saves multiple lives on a daily basis. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: You could probably make a case that the shipping forecast saves multiple lives on a daily basis. I never use weather forecasts,I don't think I should have to pay the part of my taxes that goes to fund the Met Office 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: you can. As long as you are not watching BBC or watching/recording live broadcasts you do not need a license And how exactly do you prove you haven’t watched it exactly.? Unless there is some kind of spyware on your tv how would they be able to prove you watched a bbc programme or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, bickster said: The licence fee is not a subscription to the BBC as has been previously explained It is a tv tax I agree but my point is they could scramble it and give ppl a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: It is a tv tax I agree but my point is they could scramble it and give ppl a choice. Our public service broadcasting would either die overniight or the government would have to fund it. If the government funds it, it can never be the impatial BBC that we want it to return to being. Either way it dies and your life gets worse, whether you realise that right now or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: Our public service broadcasting would either die overniight or the government would have to fund it. If the government funds it, it can never be the impatial BBC that we want it to return to being. Either way it dies and your life gets worse, whether you realise that right now or not 1 minute ago, bickster said: Our public service broadcasting would either die overniight or the government would have to fund it. If the government funds it, it can never be the impatial BBC that we want it to return to being. Either way it dies and your life gets worse, whether you realise that right now or not It’s not impartial though is it is bicks hence the name of the thread and wasn’t it you that named it that it wont have a impact on my life in the slightest as it does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 11, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: it wont have a impact on my life in the slightest as it does now. I'll wager it does. Do you listen to DAB radio? 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: It’s not impartial though is it is bicks hence the name of the thread and wasn’t it you that named it that 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: it can never be the impatial BBC that we want it to return to being I often wonder if you finish reading sentences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Blimey, I've just read the last five pages of this thread and can't remember doling out so many likes in one sitting. Edited June 11, 2019 by snowychap 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, bickster said: I'll wager it does. Do you listen to DAB radio? I often wonder if you finish reading sentences Hardly ever oh you mean the one that turned it’s head to paedophiles? I do wonder why your defend the bbc but then have slated the, in the subject title! Edited June 12, 2019 by Demitri_C 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 12, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted June 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Hardly ever oh you mean the one that turned it’s head to paedophiles? I do wonder why your defend the bbc but then have slated the, in the subject title! Oh man, there’s no way to even respond to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Dem you have been following this thread, it's been repeated many times that it's their political and news output that show bias, the last few pages have been about the quality of their programming, and people not wanting to pay the license fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: Oh man, there’s no way to even respond to that Because its the truth. Savile? Anyway let's leave that there don't want to take this off subject Edited June 12, 2019 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: Dem you have been following this thread, it's been repeated many times that it's their political and news output that show bias, the last few pages have been about the quality of their programming, and people not wanting to pay the license fee. We don't have to all be BBC fans I'm like a whole host of people that thinks the BBC sucks. I think the quality of programming is not for me. I'm not stopping or critising anyone that likes BBC but don't make me believe the BBC is this great company when it's had it's fair share of scandals. I'm also not saying I don't like sky or any of little ruperts media empire either. I like others don't watch much tv these days for the above reason. I prefer catchup services on Netflix and prime as opposed to the stuff on tv. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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