Rich192 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Made a couple of mistakes early on, but was mostly fine. Pundits and fans going on as if he put in a 1/10 performance. I just find it coincidental that the player who is getting over the top criticism happens to be a strong, opinionated black man calling out endemic racism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Very poor today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Rich192 said: Made a couple of mistakes early on, but was mostly fine. Pundits and fans going on as if he put in a 1/10 performance. I just find it coincidental that the player who is getting over the top criticism happens to be a strong, opinionated black man calling out endemic racism. I really don't think it's that. Some commentators just have it in for certain players, or inexplicably love others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Poor game. Cant make those type of mistakes against better teams and get away with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted June 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2021 Other than the miscontrol in the opening minute and maybe not being tight enough on the front post header what mistakes did he make? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Some good blocks and he rescued his performance a bit with them but quite poor I thought too. He is a leader and organiser but he and Stones both have mistake in them, they'll need to be switched on next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted June 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2021 I think he starts vs Croatia. Especially with 3 centre backs and Maguire nowhere near fit yet. I imagine it’ll be Walker, Stones and Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted June 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2021 Not sure how anyone could have watched that game and thought he was poor, he wasn't brilliant but he didn't need to do anything brilliant because of what the oppositon offered in attack. Apart from an early mistake which you could say wasn't even his fault he played perfectly fine. It seems certain narratives surround him and some want to apply those narratives to performances no matter how he performs. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 6, 2021 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2021 I thought he was poor in the first half but good in the second. I think we'll play two centre backs in the opener and I think they'll be Stones and Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, useless said: Not sure how anyone could have watched that game and thought he was poor, he wasn't brilliant but he didn't need to do anything brilliant because of what the oppositon offered in attack. Apart from an early mistake which you could say wasn't even his fault he played perfectly fine. It seems certain narratives surround him and some want to apply those narratives to performances no matter how he performs. My sentiments exactly. Feel like SkySports giving him a 4 is a bit harsh considering they gave Sancho a 6 who I thought was pretty mediocre and nonexistent for much of his appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich192 said: I just find it coincidental that the player who is getting over the top criticism happens to be a strong, opinionated black man calling out endemic racism. I think that’s totally unfair to a lot of people. Yeah there are people who may think like that but don’t dump everybody into that bucket, that’s totally unfair and painting some people with a brush that’s not warranted. I love Mings, I think what him and many others are doing is fantastic but I thought he was poor by his standards today playing wise. If I can’t have an opinion about his play today without other motives being inferred then it’s a problem. If I misunderstood you I apologise but if I think a player has been poor I will say it whoever they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, useless said: Not sure how anyone could have watched that game and thought he was poor, he wasn't brilliant but he didn't need to do anything brilliant because of what the oppositon offered in attack. Apart from an early mistake which you could say wasn't even his fault he played perfectly fine. It seems certain narratives surround him and some want to apply those narratives to performances no matter how he performs. I’m generally very complimentary of him but I thought he was poor for his standard today. That early mistake was one thing but I thought he was out of position more than a couple of times and at some points I think he was trying too hard being the senior central defender. I honestly don’t think that was one of his generally good games. I haven’t watched the media reaction but that was my view of him today. He’s one of our best players and I guess I’m used to him being better than what I saw today especially against that limited type of opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 28 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: My sentiments exactly. Feel like SkySports giving him a 4 is a bit harsh considering they gave Sancho a 6 who I thought was pretty mediocre and nonexistent for much of his appearance. Hadn’t seen media as I said before but he was better than Sancho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 The way it’s going for him, I think I’d rather he barely featured for England. The worse that could happen for us is that he comes back knackered, with his confidence shot to pieces. Let that happen to Stones, Maguire etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: My sentiments exactly. Feel like SkySports giving him a 4 is a bit harsh considering they gave Sancho a 6 who I thought was pretty mediocre and nonexistent for much of his appearance. I have not seen much of him but I can honestly say that I have never seen Sancho have a good game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: The way it’s going for him, I think I’d rather he barely featured for England. The worse that could happen for us is that he comes back knackered, with his confidence shot to pieces. Let that happen to Stones, Maguire etc I don’t think Mings will ever have an issue with confidence, which is why I think he sometimes makes mistakes. If anything he’s over-confident at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 The media prepsring their scapegoat nice and early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Only watched the first 30 mins ... but I have to agree Mings seemed a little off today. Having said that I got the impression Romania seemed to attack down their left to test England's lack of depth at the right back position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Thought he was pretty solid today myself. Don't really get all the worry. It's not like Maguire or other players dont have a mistake in them either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Ben White was constantly out of position and losing runners. Yet he "looked assured" . Absolute bollocks. Mings played well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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