Risso Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 He looks like a good, solid defender, but then he has cost three of our last four goals. His job as a defender is to not do that. Go and have a look at the goals if you don’t believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Elphick was much poorer yesterday of the two. Mings wins so many headers and is very calm when in possession unlike Tommy. Very much like what I've seen and if it's true Axel is returning next month I think those two will do well for us and we'll regret we didn't have that sort of combination in August. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted February 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2019 Between 5 and 8 million and i'd sign him. Anything more and i think there is better value available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: Between 5 and 8 million and i'd sign him. Anything more and i think there is better value available I think we’ll have quite a lot of competition for him, I think he could play in the Premier League based on what I’ve seen from him so far for Villa 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Risso said: He looks like a good, solid defender, but then he has cost three of our last four goals. His job as a defender is to not do that. Go and have a look at the goals if you don’t believe me. We have to defend better as a team in my opinion, the attacking players don’t do enough defensively, cough El Ghazi cough. I’d struggle to name a better centre back that we could attain other than Mings Edited February 24, 2019 by sir_gary_cahill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted February 24, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think we’ll have quite a lot of competition for him, I think he could play in the Premier League based on what I’ve seen from him so far for Villa 100% Agree. But, my sources tell me the loan had a future fee clause of 7m. If true, it would mean that we effectively can offer him a contract now, and seal his signature, should we so wish. I think, given his injury record, this would be ill-advised until he has 0layed more than 10 games without an issue, which he has not done for 4 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 20 minutes ago, flashingqwerty said: 100% Agree. But, my sources tell me the loan had a future fee clause of 7m. If true, it would mean that we effectively can offer him a contract now, and seal his signature, should we so wish. I think, given his injury record, this would be ill-advised until he has 0layed more than 10 games without an issue, which he has not done for 4 years. If I was manager, I’d sign him permanently and give him the armband, he shows passion and fight for the cause. As for the injury problems, we managed Martin Laursen fairly well when he was here. Mings doesn’t play like he’s injury prone, he’s a blood and guts style defender, my type of defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, flashingqwerty said: 100% Agree. But, my sources tell me the loan had a future fee clause of 7m. If true, it would mean that we effectively can offer him a contract now, and seal his signature, should we so wish. I think, given his injury record, this would be ill-advised until he has 0layed more than 10 games without an issue, which he has not done for 4 years. I dont think we can afford him, or any player costing 7m. We are out of parachute money next season. If we get good money for Jack we might be able to hang onto most of our other senior players but the loanees are all going to have to go back. We just wont be financially able to re loan them or buy them. Its going to be Championship players or our youth going forward. Edited February 24, 2019 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Hope we can sign him - unlikely I fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I hope we keep him. I am assuming DS will want to sign him permanently but I’m not assuming that we have or haven’t got the finance, or assuming that Tyrone will or won’t choose us over his other option(s). Simply hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, nnock1984 said: Hope we can sign him - unlikely I fear If he likes working with Dean and wants to be a part of a defense built around him, he'll sign with us over other Championship teams. If a Premier League team comes in for him, though? Who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Very impressive player. If we can, I'd sign him for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 There is a story that says he wouldn't join us permanently unless we are in the prem, not sure if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I heard* Mings would rather retire than play for anyone but Villa. * on Twitter^ ^ well it would be if I could be bothered to put it on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Can't remember the last time I was so excited about a new player, huge potential and character, I think he can become a legend here. But if he doesn't want to be here after the summer, bye bye and *** off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 21:04, ciggiesnbeer said: I dont think we can afford him, or any player costing 7m. We are out of parachute money next season. If we get good money for Jack we might be able to hang onto most of our other senior players but the loanees are all going to have to go back. We just wont be financially able to re loan them or buy them. Its going to be Championship players or our youth going forward. The transfer fee won't be the problem. The wages or the fact a premier league club may be interested, would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Can't remember the last time I was so excited about a new player, huge potential and character, I think he can become a legend here. But if he doesn't want to be here after the summer, bye bye and *** off. Where has this possibility come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Can't remember the last time I was so excited about a new player, huge potential and character, I think he can become a legend here. But if he doesn't want to be here after the summer, bye bye and *** off. I think him and hause are really showing potential. (Obviously hause had a bit of a mare first couple of games, bit he looks pretty good also now, seems he has settled a bit and is more comfortable in the team) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: The transfer fee won't be the problem. The wages or the fact a premier league club may be interested, would be. Would be nice of we could get him. But .. and I hate to say it as you know I really despise it.. but if we are going to be "FFP" compliant then I think Mings maybe out of our reach. Sadly. Hopefully I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 The two players we have already bought would indicate that money will not necessarily be a problem. Mings certainly stands out in a poorly performing side. Is he Premier League quality? Not sure about that. The same applies to Abrahams. Both, I think, would be possible signings for next season in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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