Popular Post Keyblade Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 He conceded a corner from a ricochet off of him after tussling with probably the strongest CF in the league. Unless goals are given for corners conceded, I'm failing to see how that goal is on him? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Not a peep from the Konsa thread but the Mings thread is right at the top after a defeat, what a surprise. Edited January 27, 2021 by Farlz 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Team should be able to defend a corner. I won't pick on Mings today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Farlz said: Not a peep from the Konsa thread but the Mings thread is right at the top after a defeat, what a surprise. Konsa is McGrath Strikes Back and Mings is The Return of Titus Bramble, haven't you heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted January 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2021 We play as a team and the team is to blame for today’s defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, tomav84 said: i'm genuinely curious to know what's happened. from the relentless 'announce mings' stuff to criticising him at every opportunity. it seems to have gotten worse since he bit back at fans following the abuse of el ghazi. wondering if that has something to do with it? It had gotten a lot worse since Mings became a BLM speaker and went vocally on the protests, even before then his odd mistakes were casually passed off. Now everything he does is magnified whether a tackle or tying his laces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Zatman said: It had gotten a lot worse since Mings became a BLM speaker and went vocally on the protests, even before then his odd mistakes were casually passed off. Now everything he does is magnified whether a tackle or tying his laces I've always thought he does to much focusing on everything else in the media and instead should be concentrating on his football. Hes always got something to say and should just give that a rest for a while. His defending is getting worse as each game goes on by, especially since his red card. The Mings before would of gone to ground and stook his foot out to stop that goal from crossing his path, hed of reached like Dahlslim off of streetfighter to keep that one out, he could of stopped it. I see fat from both Konsa and Mings, they didnt help eachother that much tonight. And someone should of been Tracking the player who scored that first header and he just came out of no where and left whoever was marking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Mings hatred continues, getting embarrassing now I don't think it is hatred. Surely a player's performance can be questioned without being classed it as hatred? I love him. But, for me, if there's an error to be made he's the most likely to do it. He's a man mountain and when on his game he's phenomenal. I just don't think he hits his top standard regularly enough. Look at how consistent Konsa and Targett have been this season. They have hardly put a foot wrong all season. My criticism isn't just about Mings either. Cash, although I'm a huge fan, is also guilty of not getting close enough to block crosses coming in. It's clear and obvious that other teams see that too, hence they target that side of our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Villarocker said: I don't think it is hatred. Surely a player's performance can be questioned without being classed it as hatred? I love him. But, for me, if there's an error to be made he's the most likely to do it. He's a man mountain and when on his game he's phenomenal. I just don't think he hits his top standard regularly enough. Look at how consistent Konsa and Targett have been this season. They have hardly put a foot wrong all season. My criticism isn't just about Mings either. Cash, although I'm a huge fan, is also guilty of not getting close enough to block crosses coming in. It's clear and obvious that other teams see that too, hence they target that side of our defence. Mings isn't a top 6 defender simple as that. Players like McGinn and Mings may not be as good as we think. If we want to go to the next level we need better players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave-R said: I see fat from both Konsa and Mings, they didnt help eachother that much tonight. And someone should of been Tracking the player who scored that first header and he just came out of no where and left whoever was marking him. I thought Mings was fairly average and for the 3rd goal I thought he should have been more aware of woods pulling off the back of him and in all honesty for a guy if his size his arial ability against the better headers is not great however the 1st goal for me is on Barkley he made no attempt to bloke or change the path of Ben Mee so he was able to wander in with a free header. Edited January 28, 2021 by punkiller1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Farlz said: Not a peep from the Konsa thread but the Mings thread is right at the top after a defeat, what a surprise. absolute shocker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Zonal marking needs to piss off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Dave-R said: I've always thought he does to much focusing on everything else in the media and instead should be concentrating on his football. Hes always got something to say and should just give that a rest for a while. His defending is getting worse as each game goes on by, especially since his red card. The Mings before would of gone to ground and stook his foot out to stop that goal from crossing his path, hed of reached like Dahlslim off of streetfighter to keep that one out, he could of stopped it. I see fat from both Konsa and Mings, they didnt help eachother that much tonight. And someone should of been Tracking the player who scored that first header and he just came out of no where and left whoever was marking him. if he wants to focus on politics as well that's his right imo. he is a human being after all and you can't fault him for that surely? as an intelligent young black man too I'm sure that BLM means a lot to him. would think that's more important than football anyways, but it's not like you can consistitute a couple of tweets to him shirking his duties as a football player. Just don't agree with this sentiment at all mate. As for his defending, he has ups and downs like all our players really. I think overall that he is an excellent defender and our record of clean sheets this season (second only to Manchester City) is more thanks to rather than inspite of Mings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Mings isn't a top 6 defender simple as that. Players like McGinn and Mings may not be as good as we think. If we want to go to the next level we need better players. i think both are top 6 players...they're definitely at least top half players. i agree they will need upgrading if we want to aim higher i think both players would get games for leicester, but neither would play much for city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Zonal marking needs to piss off. I agree. This is our biggest problem. Not Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 its an interesting one, i dont really see what Mings did wrong last night. What was a major issue for me was the apparent zonal marking, and this isnt Mings' fault afaik??? Whatever made us allow Burnley's two big honking centre backs to be together at the back post almost unmolested for that corner was criminal, i think Konsa was effectively alone with both of them?, madness. (Zonal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2021 I'm not sure why people are getting offended at others pointing out Mings' bad performances. I love Tyrone. I think he's been a great player for us and he'll continue to be a key player for us. But his recent performances haven't been to his usual high standard and he's been poor at times. Konsa is currently the best centreback at the club and he's backing it up with good performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 28, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Zonal marking needs to piss off. 1 hour ago, villan-scott said: I agree. This is our biggest problem. Not Mings. I couldn't disagree more. Zonal marking being shit is the biggest myth in football. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 28, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 hours ago, Farlz said: Not a peep from the Konsa thread but the Mings thread is right at the top after a defeat, what a surprise. Konsa played better than Mings. Not really that hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: Konsa played better than Mings. Not really that hard to understand. I agree to some extent. However had Konza conceded that corner, there is no way people would have blamed him or criticised him for the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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