Popular Post Zatman Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 The criticism is OTT as usual, he had one mistake but except that he was fine. Made some brave blocks To play our style I expect mistakes from our defenders but Mings gets a bit too criticism from people 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indigo Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Zatman said: The criticism is OTT as usual, he had one mistake but except that he was fine. Made some brave blocks To play our style I expect mistakes from our defenders but Mings gets a bit too criticism from people If you go off WhoScored or whatever metric you'd like he was great today. Numerous clearances and important blocks, in particular clearing what would have been a certain tap in after Emi spilled a shot. One brain fart where he got dispossessed on the halfway line is being held against him but Konsa flicked the ball up and shanked a clearance into his own box and...crickets in comparison. The guy can't win on this forum anymore but if he keeps performing like this I couldn't care less because we'll be the better for it. Edited December 13, 2020 by Indigo 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 28 in March. He's not going to get any better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just has to be on the list to be replaced. He’s done great to get us to where we need to be but if we want to push on he should be a squad player. We could really do without a starting player who has at least one clanger every game and yet thinks he’s peak Rio Ferdinand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Leader of a backline that has allowed the 4th fewest goals in the league. Every defender has a mistake in them. That's why you defend as a team. Are we expecting him to be faultless? 10 games into his second season as a Prem CB. We get rid now and his new team will be laughing the same we were at Bournemouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I thought he had a good game. If anyone reads The Athletic, there’s a really positive article about him today, mainly around his leadership on the pitch and how he contributes to the overall organisation of the team during matches. I think people forget how much we missed him when he was out injured at the end of last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Zatman said: The criticism is OTT as usual, he had one mistake but except that he was fine. Made some brave blocks To play our style I expect mistakes from our defenders but Mings gets a bit too criticism from people I thought he was good today. His slide tackle after Martinez spilled it saved us conceding a goal. Shame he only gets remembered for one mistake where he got disposed by the half way line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Rightdm00 said: Leader of a backline that has allowed the 4th fewest goals in the league. Every defender has a mistake in them. That's why you defend as a team. Are we expecting him to be faultless? 10 games into his second season as a Prem CB. We get rid now and his new team will be laughing the same we were at Bournemouth. I think it’s complete madness fans are even suggesting we are in a position to think about replacing him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted December 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 13, 2020 He has to keep working on his game, make better decisions and be a better leader on the pitch. It's in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kingman said: 28 in March. He's not going to get any better! Could easily be the sort of player who peaks a few years later - say 30 - considering he didn’t start playing centre back regularly until he was 25/26 Not physically but tactically he’ll only get better. Which is of course a huge part of his position Edited December 13, 2020 by myko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought he was good today. His slide tackle after Martinez spilled it saved us conceding a goal. I couldn't work out if it was him or konsa And then you throw in martinez was up and ready to go again so between the 3 of them the hunger to stop the goal was brilliant, previous villa teams have conceded there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I actually thought it was between Mings and Martinez for motm yesterday.. surprised by the negative comments, but guess that is just the villa fan base way. There is always a scapegoat. What Mings has done and is still doing for us is immense, think people's expectations of him has just exceeded reality 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Greenfly Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 Say what you want about him as a player; he isn't perfect, there are better defenders, whatever. But there's no arguing he's a true leader. He looks out for the other players in the team and is never afraid of saying what needs to be said. He definitely has an overall positive effect on the entire squad in terms of morale and performances, and that makes him almost as invaluable as Jack right now. Will we have better defenders in the future? Surely. But can we be as sure they'll have the same personality? Both are just as important. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chicken Field said: I actually thought it was between Mings and Martinez for motm yesterday.. surprised by the negative comments, but guess that is just the villa fan base way. There is always a scapegoat. What Mings has done and is still doing for us is immense, think people's expectations of him has just exceeded reality For me it was between Martinez and Targett, but I thought Mings made some important challenges and did well, by and large. He's a good defender and an important part of the team's spine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 He was excellent yesterday. Except for the Silva chance he couldn't move his feet quick enough a bit like Salah's second goal. But he was excellent. When you don't notice a centre back he's done well. His finish was pretty tidy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I thought he was excellent yesterday. People don’t realise how much he organises our team. Without him I don’t think you see the Konsa we’ve seen this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Did he really say "villains" in his post? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Greenfly said: Say what you want about him as a player; he isn't perfect, there are better defenders, whatever. But there's no arguing he's a true leader. He looks out for the other players in the team and is never afraid of saying what needs to be said. He definitely has an overall positive effect on the entire squad in terms of morale and performances, and that makes him almost as invaluable as Jack right now. Will we have better defenders in the future? Surely. But can we be as sure they'll have the same personality? Both are just as important. Tend to agree, though I remember Ty and AEG having a clash of heads about a year ago at home to Wet Spam, Ty wasn't happy that AEG hadn't tracked back and told him in no uncertain words how he felt. So there is a bit of hypocrisy there, though that was understandably in the heat of the moment. I feel the problem with social media is eejits of every fanbase (not just ours) can easily come out and berate the players. It happened with Delph at Everton last year when a fan gave him a load of stick over Instagram and they traded some insults back and forth. Arsenal Fan TV is notorious for the players getting stick, Bellerin got loads of abuse after his performance at Spurs. So we're by no means the only fans who do it and Ty needs to understand that. Constructive criticism is ok, even suggesting someone is not good enough is ok, personal insults are not. I reproach all those that did insult AEG as it was completely undeserved. The guy actually did well at times last season and at other times not so well, some accused him of being a coward which was ridiculous, he's probably not good enough to be a regular for us but is still a valuable part of the squad and for me should still be playing a part. He did well in the cup games this year but got absolutely no credit, while the likes of Ramsey, Traore and Davis got praised. I wish our fans would stop having a scapegoat, AEG isn't a bad guy, in fact he's one of the nicest guys at the club and tries his best, he needs to be left alone and allowed to try and play his football when given the opportunity. Hopefully he feels like he can reactivate his Twitter account now and I hope the fans will support like they do he other players at the club. Edited December 13, 2020 by VillaFaninLondon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) I do agree with Mings here but he is beginning to come across as a highly self-righteous person on and off the pitch. It goes without saying that the abuse of El Ghazi - as with any of our players really - was terrible. Fully behind him for supporting BLM, but decided to go to a protest and actively encourage others to do so in the middle of a pandemic. Not sure about that mate. His on-field behaviour is also very self-important. Like he really needs to take those extra touches and make that Hollywood pass because he is Tyrone Mings, England International. Maguire does the same actually. Please pass the ball to any of your team mates who are better than you on the ball, thanks. Edited December 13, 2020 by gilbertoAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Mings was superb yesterday. He is not someone we need to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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