rodders0223 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He does that, constantly. You posted about 10 times today about his appearance on the field. At least be objective with your criticism. Call out his lackadaisical dribbling or his casual drifting back into defense. Hell, get annoyed that deflections off him often seem to head towards the goal instead of away from it. Not this petulant nonsense of "he looks too cool" on the field. He does though. He is the most self aware man going. He is one stop from Patrick Bateman flexing his guns and winking at his reflection after a tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 He can be as arrogant and preen himself as much as he likes, if he stops giving the ball away needlessly and standing pointing in the box but not actually marking anyone. Hey, Brainiac, your team should be watching their man, not where you point. I'd love for Terry to pull him to one side and say "Every time you showboat in defence for no reason, you're donating 10k to charity". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I would.be very happy to sell him if Arsenal or someone came in for him. We can do so much better than Tyrone Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We won't sell our england international CB We won't even drop him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted November 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2020 I am christening him Mr Hollywood. Come on Tyrone you could be brilliant cut out the casual play and dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I would.be very happy to sell him if Arsenal or someone came in for him. We can do so much better than Tyrone Mings. Too far, IMO. Not many sides outside of the expected top 6 have better CBs than Mings. He's not perfect. He's not as good as he thinks he is. He's probably not good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. But right now, with our squad, is he one of the main problems? Not for my money. Depth up front, better options on the wings, a better CM and a better LB are all a priority before upgrading Mings, for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 He has his moments (and he has a big one pretty much every game), but it's actually nice having centre backs and a goalkeeper who are comfortable on the ball and properly allow us to play from the back. (FWIW, the one time he messed around and lost the ball leading to a corner, I genuinely don't know why the West Ham player (Bowen?) wasn't given offside). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Its getting farcical now, borderline embarrassing antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Too much not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I still maintain he is overrated makes to many school boy mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I think CB should be considered number 1 priority in the Jan/summer windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Could be very good, and thought he’d left that carelessness in pre-lockdown. Still a very decent player, played some decent stuff out from the back tonight. Cut out the occasional suicidal casualness and he’s very worthy of his England shirt. Would like to see more commanding urgency and less of the attitude at times though. Edited December 1, 2020 by thunderball 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You can see the errors coming ages before they do. Somewhere in here last season I said almost all his errors are brought on by himself. He's still doing it and it's very boring. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 He's a good PL centre back. But he is not a leader in the defence, and certainly not someone that will bring the best out of Konsa consistently. We need a strong CB that can command a back 4 and would be equally comfortable alongside Mings or Konsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He does that, constantly. You posted about 10 times today about his appearance on the field. At least be objective with your criticism. Call out his lackadaisical dribbling or his casual drifting back into defense. Hell, get annoyed that deflections off him often seem to head towards the goal instead of away from it. Not this petulant nonsense of "he looks too cool" on the field. Sorry mate, I was just trying to lighten the mood and I’m sure it was just this post and 1 other in the post match thread. I think it is objective and valid though. I’d prefer if when the ball went out of play TM would use those seconds to run into position, organise those around him, maybe few words of motivation to keep the intensity high. Not Mr Casual at the Tyrone Mings show. He’s not good enough for that. Compare him to Konsa or several of our other players. They look like they are wired, pumped, looking for danger or the next opportunity. This guy looks like he’s having a kick about with his kids (if he has any?) in the garden. Edited December 1, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 He's genuinely terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I don't think he needs replacing. He is a good player, but he thinks he is better than he is. The most frustrating thing for me is that, even when he plays the correct pass (i.e. give a simple ten yard pass to Luiz or Targett), he always takes five too many touches to do so. We thrive on building attacks quickly and if one player is going to do that with a long ball, it is Dougie Luiz, not Mings. One of the key roles of a good defender is to give the ball to better players quickly. Mings fails to do this the majority of the time, and when he does look for a quick ball, he usually gives it to the opposition right-back for a throw-in. Move the ball quicker, get rid of it when it danger. Also his 50p head continues to annoy me. Use your forehead! Aside from that, he is fine lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I still really like him. He's a fantastic player when it keeps it simple, but mentally he doesn't seem to want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 He can't concentrate, he's not brave, he loses his man too often, and quite what he thinks he's doing at corners, is anybody's guess. Apart from that, he has all the attributes you need to be a top class central defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Risso said: He's genuinely terrible. I disagree. He just thinks he's better than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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