sidcow Posted November 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2020 Mings is in the BBC "select your team" team. Surely a matter of time before he becomes the bedrock of the England defence. Thanks for the bargain Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) On 12/11/2020 at 07:14, LondonLax said: Every country in the world has racists. We all still have work to do to make things better for everyone. We do still have to work to make things better, but it will be a long hard road......but non racists, do struggle to think there is a problem, because they don't readily see the issue, because they don't see an issue. Racists have a personality defect, that will always be hard to cure.....just like bullies, think they are doing nothing wrong.....its funny, how nice, compassionate, tolerant people are more likely to be non-racist. but remember too...racism is also a two way street........If you are nice and fair to folk, chances are they will be nice to you. Edited November 15, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 hours ago, TRO said: We do still have to work to make things better, but it will be a long hard road......but non racists, do struggle to think there is a problem, because they don't readily see the issue, because they don't see an issue. Racists have a personality defect, that will always be hard to cure.....just like bullies, think they are doing nothing wrong.....its funny, how nice, compassionate, tolerant people are more likely to be non-racist. but remember too...racism is also a two way street........If you are nice and fair to folk, chances are they will be nice to you. I’ll be honest enough, the UK doesn’t have much of racism considered with elsewhere. I’ve never had even one incident which suggests that there is racism. Yes it’s not perfect as no where in the world is perfect, but still I think you can be proud about whats been achieved in that, and still more to come. A lot of other societies are still well behind in this matter, and I agree about what you’ve said down there too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Deleted: misinformation Edited November 15, 2020 by Thug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Mings trademark garbage block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Why does he never jump at free kicks?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Why does he never jump at free kicks?! Same reason he doesn't tackle. He thinks he's Beckenbauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, rodders0223 said: Same reason he doesn't tackle. He thinks he's Beckenbauer. What’s your beef with Mings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Tommo_b said: Why does he never jump at free kicks?! Because that results more often in deflections. If mings jumps there and it catches him in the left side of his head. It deflects across the face of goal. Then you are questioning why he jumped. Jumping more frequently results in deflections that cause you to concede. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think it's probably to do with if you have the inner two in the wall standing rather than jumping then it takes out the option of going under the wall. If it goes under the outer two then the shot probably goes wide so they can jump regardless. Today the two that didnt jump were Mings and Kane, two of the tallest players in the team, one of whom is captain so it must be a planned thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 In a three you play a left footed CB which is mings, vs the dregs of Europe in the qualifiers of course he's alright When you start saying play a 4 at the back in tournaments you can start saying he's not good enough I'm his defence if 3 is the way forward then play him with coady, play your best 3, not sure he ever had yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Had a solid performance when he was in Belgiums half, night to forget in England's half though. Not his best game. Think the formation had a part to play in that though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I thought he did ok. It was Dier that cost us tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought he did ok. It was Dier that cost us tonight. We have so many pretty good cbs in the prem yet Southgate keeps choosing dier and maguire. Dunk, Webster, Tarkowski, Holgate, Tuanzebe, Konsa should all be in line to start for England ahead of those 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I’m kind of amazed he starts for England. I really don’t think he’s that level of player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Spoony said: I’m kind of amazed he starts for England. I really don’t think he’s that level of player. When you compare him to England's other centre backs, you can see why he plays. We just aren't blessed with great centre backs in England anymore. Compared to the golden generation of Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, Woodgate, Ledley King, etc Edited November 15, 2020 by Xela 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spoony said: I’m kind of amazed he starts for England. I really don’t think he’s that level of player. When you line up at CB with Dier and Walker , I think it’s quite apparent England don’t have a lot of quality at CB he did Ok today , was certainly the least error prone of the 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Xela said: When you compare him to England's other centre backs, you can see why he plays. We just aren't blessed with great centre backs in England anymore. Compared to the golden generation of Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, Woodgate, Ledley King, etc Yep, Maguire, Mings, Coady, Keane, Stones, Gomez. All good but none of them great. Any combination of those is much of a muchness. Dier though is complete garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I thought he did well defensively for the most part, handled Lukaku well one on one. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Yep, Maguire, Mings, Coady, Keane, Stones, Gomez. All good but none of them great. Any combination of those is much of a muchness. Dier though is complete garbage. Yeah we've got a bunch of poor CBs for England. Have to also add in Dier and Walker, neither of whom should play CB (Dier just shouldn't play full stop). Mings has flaws which we can all see every week, but honestly I'd still pick him over most of those on that list. Maguire has a touch of the Titus Brambles about him, great in 1 moment and completely awful the next, Coady Keane and Gomez seem to have the same flaws as Mings and Stones can't defend and is nowhere near as good at playing as he thinks he is. Honestly the best 3 are probably Maguire, Coady and Mings, but like you said you could pick any combination of 2 or 3 and it wouldn't make a lot of difference really. They've all got mistakes in them and they're all good on their day. Pick the most in form ones at the time and that should work 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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