Villan4Life Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Borderline world class? What gives you this impression? 5 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I disagree, particularly in the second half You need go out and do this professionally as a scout Sir G. No good saying this on Villa Talk for years when you are a very enthusiastic & passionate guy about talent identification!! when you can give your information that you feel strongly about to managers/clubs/D.O.F's and help to make a difference for them. UTV Edited January 8, 2020 by Villan4Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I disagree, particularly in the second half Maddison was really poor tonight. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Maddison was really poor tonight. Agreed. Everyone know's how much i've rated him for years on here too. Grealish was way the better player tonight out the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Think back to when Gerrard was captain at Liverpool he always said he needed Carra he was the one who layed into people and was the voice at half time its the same with theese two , I see them as co Captains Jack lead by example Mings is more vocal and comanding perfect combo Good way of putting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted January 8, 2020 Moderator Share Posted January 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Borderline world class? What gives you this impression? Have you been hacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Normal service resumed.....masterclass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: Think back to when Gerrard was captain at Liverpool he always said he needed Carra he was the one who layed into people and was the voice at half time its the same with theese two , I see them as co Captains Jack lead by example Mings is more vocal and comanding perfect combo Or like when Brian O'Driscoll captained the Irish rugby team they had Paul O'Connell being the real leader and there is a similar dynamic here. *I hate rugby for the record and rejoice in Ireland's failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 the don indeed. what a class player he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 He has faults but genuinely don't see a better English centre back at the moment. Minhs has more than Stones and Maguire and think some credit has to go to Terry as think him and Hause has improved since they got here and Konsa looks like going same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 hours ago, bobzy said: That he’s not half as good as some make out? Yes. Massively. He’s probably the best player we’ve had in a good... I don’t know, LOADS of years. It’s particularly amusing given how much you hype up and have trust in those who deliver nothing, when yet someone is genuinely borderline world class he’s overhyped It's even weirder because SGC was the first one to call Jack's incredible talent and future a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Have you been hacked? Imagine if @sir_gary_cahill turned out to be a troll playing a really, really, really, really long game . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Mings is a leader of men, he doesn’t shirk his responsibilities and he leads by example. He’s like an old fashioned centre back in that sense. The captain should always be a centre back I think. It’s almost become like the Jack Grealish show, the media and fans are hyping him up beyond belief, don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a very good player but not half as good as some make out, who would be your captain? That wasn’t my question - I asked how you would tell Grealish you were taking the captaincy off him? Do you think he would react well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Adam2003 said: That wasn’t my question - I asked how you would tell Grealish you were taking the captaincy off him? Do you think he would react well? Not at all, he wouldn’t react well but I think it would make him even better, at times he’s like a petulant child when he has a go at other players or the referee. For me, he is not a great model, the captaincy is a burden to him. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a fantastic player, 1 of the best I’ve seen in a Villa shirt. I’d pull him over to one side and just say ‘Jack, I don’t think you’re captain material, I believe it is a weighing you down. If we take the captaincy off you and give it to Mings as he is more of a natural leader. It would give Grealish more freedom to go and express himself even more, feel free to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2020 He was fantastic last night and was rightly fuming with the goal conceded, which he was so close to blocking. He was unlucky not to get in the way of it with the way Iheanacho placed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 He’s a class above at the back. Love him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Not at all, he wouldn’t react well but I think it would make him even better, at times he’s like a petulant child when he has a go at other players or the referee. For me, he is not a great model, the captaincy is a burden to him. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a fantastic player, 1 of the best I’ve seen in a Villa shirt. I’d pull him over to one side and just say ‘Jack, I don’t think you’re captain material, I believe it is a weighing you down. If we take the captaincy off you and give it to Mings as he is more of a natural leader. It would give Grealish more freedom to go and express himself even more, feel free to disagree Ok got it! I disagree on Grealish and the effect on his game but see where you are coming from. I also agree that Mings is our de facto captain anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 11 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I disagree, particularly in the second half The only thing maddison is better at than grealish is set pieces. Aside from that grealish is just better at passing, dribbling, shooting and defending. Leicester had over 60% possession because our defense and midfield couldn't keep the ball (which is a common issue for us) so of course maddison looked good because he had the ball more and he has better players around him so when he does do something he isn't the only threat. Why is grealish world class? Best dribbler in the prem 7 goals (Bs VAR ruled 1 out) 6 assists (Bs Kevin friend ruled one out). Grealish is on track for 12 and 12 and he was on like 2 and 3 after 12 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: The only thing maddison is better at than grealish is set pieces. Aside from that grealish is just better at passing, dribbling, shooting and defending. Leicester had over 60% possession because our defense and midfield couldn't keep the ball (which is a common issue for us) so of course maddison looked good because he had the ball more and he has better players around him so when he does do something he isn't the only threat. Why is grealish world class? Best dribbler in the prem 7 goals (Bs VAR ruled 1 out) 6 assists (Bs Kevin friend ruled one out). Grealish is on track for 12 and 12 and he was on like 2 and 3 after 12 games. He’s world class based on 21 Premier League games this season? I think we can call him world class when he’s played for England full team 70 times. He hasn’t made it yet, I think fans and press are overhyping him beyond belief. Yes, he is a fantastic footballer and very good looking but he’s done nothing yet. He has the potential to be world class, not yet I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 He went mental at Nyland when he passed it to Guilbert rather than play it short to Hause. I can understand Nyland reluctance to go short to the centre halves with the way Leicester were pressing. I thought it was funny how much Mings flipped out though. Mings is a our VVD. We can’t defend without him. If Liverpool lost VVD they wouldn’t win the league just as if we lose Mings we will get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Or City without Laporte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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