KentVillan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Along with Jack, Tyrone is the biggest reason that we have come so far in the past 10 months. We have been awful at the back for years (even with JT we looked somewhat exposed at times) but he single handily rectified that over night. He is a joy to watch and a top bloke to boot! Exactly, we spent the whole summer saying ANNOUNCE MINGS ANNOUNCE MINGS ANNOUNCE MINGS. And now some fans are already turning on him because he's made a few (fairly minor) mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Good fun this. At least we can all agree he made a mistake now, that was being contested for a while for some reason. When he gets rid of these easy to eliminate ones like losing the ball when you're within 30 yards of our goal, he and Aston Villa will be better off. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Good fun this. At least we can all agree he made a mistake now, that was being contested for a while for some reason. When he gets rid of these easy to eliminate ones like losing the ball when you're within 30 yards of our goal, he and Aston Villa will be better off. Can't wait. Show me where anyone contested that. We were just saying the goal wasn't his fault (it wasn't) and that the mistake wasn't that big (it wasn't). He won't eliminate those mistakes entirely, because we pass out from the back. These mistakes will happen. Konsa and Engels will also make these mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He has made virtually the exact same mistake on numerous occasions, to such an extent that I think the opposition are now targeting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, KentVillan said: I think it should have been on, though. All he needed was Douglas to come shorter (which is the pass he's looking for) or Grealish to drop deeper for a better passing angle. It's that process of looking for Douglas and realising it isn't on that leaves him panicking a bit, and taking extra touches. If you're playing for a team where your first instinct is always to put your foot through the ball, then it's easy to clear it first time there. If you're playing in a passing team, where your first instinct is always to look for a pass to feet, then you're going to make more mistakes like this. I just think some of our fans are whinging words removed who are obsessed with nitpicking over minor faults. Mings will get injured at some point this season, and then those same fans will be piling in on Konsa and Engels. I can see it already. You make a decent case for him.....I love Mings from the day he stepped in to Villa park. but this is the thing......We dominated that first half and stupid errors, got them back in....that is the issue .....one ounce of work from them has trumped a ton of work from us. silly errors have haunted us this season.....we haven't been outplayed, we have just gifted goals.....we are making hard work of it, unnecessarily. Just as an example.....We have conceded so many goals at our back post, Brighton, Liverpool, Man U just to mention a few......Tonight Man City know that Burnley crowd the back post on set pieces....Burnley have a corner on 62 minutes and Man City have 4 players on the back post crowding Burnley out......thats what i am refering to, using your loaf. We have to stop the stupid errors, its organisation,concentration / Nous in the main. Edited December 3, 2019 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: Show me where anyone contested that. We were just saying the goal wasn't his fault (it wasn't) and that the mistake wasn't that big (it wasn't). He won't eliminate those mistakes entirely, because we pass out from the back. These mistakes will happen. Konsa and Engels will also make these mistakes. Its a team game.....it doesn't matter who makes them, they are made and it needs to stop. yes, we do play out from the back, but that is not a trade off or mitigation for mistakes. however, your observations are right, some players need to make themselves more available to a pass....but Mings also need to move the ball quicker, if no one is there, kick it out and rollock them afterwards,fir not moving, not get caught on the ball. I can tell you, Roy Keane would be giving the hair dryer to some of our players for not moving off the ball, if he was in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, poitier said: He has made virtually the exact same mistake on numerous occasions, to such an extent that I think the opposition are now targeting it. Yeah and our plan is always to break the lines, beat the press. Imagine if he finds Jack in that big green space in the example we are talking about here. A few touches and Grealish could take half the team out from there. Edit - I believe Deano would call it "settling traps". Sometimes our traps will bite back. In this case, conceding a corner. Edited December 4, 2019 by dont_do_it_doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 hours ago, KentVillan said: Show me where anyone contested that. We were just saying the goal wasn't his fault (it wasn't) and that the mistake wasn't that big (it wasn't). He won't eliminate those mistakes entirely, because we pass out from the back. These mistakes will happen. Konsa and Engels will also make these mistakes. Delighted we can all agree it was a mistake. Can't wait until he eliminates these simple errors. It'll be a slight adjustment for him and a huge step up for us as a team. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ferguson1 Posted December 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2019 I’m just delighted we have him. The last time we were in this league, we had Lescott in his position! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, ferguson1 said: I’m just delighted we have him. The last time we were in this league, we had Lescott in his position! This is the thing. Thinking back for about last 10 years here... we've had to endure the likes of Knight, Cuellar, Baker, Clark, Collins, Dunne, Okore, Senderos, Lescott, Richards, Elphick and Samba. We should be damn grateful about Mings and the CBs we now have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted December 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 hours ago, ferguson1 said: I’m just delighted we have him. The last time we were in this league, we had Lescott in his position! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 More casual play from Ty again tonight. He needs to sharpen up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Not learning from Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I'm terming all the times Mings gives me heart attack when he's on the ball, a Mings Moment. Tonight was better imo, less Mings Moments than usual. There were a couple of times there where he cleared it when I would've expected Mings to unnecesarily hold on to the ball so, improvement I guess. Still could do with removing Mings Moments completely from his game. Edited December 4, 2019 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He's a very good ball playing CB.....in the championship. Doing it at prem is him being a liability I'm afraid. I get the feeling since being away with England that Southgate told him he got called up for being o;k playing it from the back and now he's trying it at every opportunity. Time to get back to basics Tyrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted December 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2019 Mings worst game for Villa tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Thought he was poor again tonight. Pains me to say that because I love him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 To casual at times and sloppy needs to get back to basics and hoof the ball if he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I like the fact he's a ball playing defender and I'd hate it if all he done was hoof it the pitch but he's becoming over confident and he's making silly mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I thought he was better tonight than Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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