TRO Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I thought he had a sound game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TRO said: I thought he had a sound game. Read through some player ratings, I should have known better... Stones was class and Mings was shakey and unsure in comparison... Thats like the complete opposite of what i saw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Read through some player ratings, I should have known better... Stones was class and Mings was shakey and unsure in comparison... Thats like the complete opposite of what i saw Yeah but one plays for Villa and the other plays (word used very loosely) for City, so your eyes are lying to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Yeah but one plays for Villa and the other plays (word used very loosely) for City, so your eyes are lying to you. Not even sure it was that As simple as stones scored a goal so he was automatically good He looked rusty to me, tried to be more adventurous with his passing but it wasn't as composed as Mings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 13/10/2021 at 22:11, Keyblade said: Yeah but one plays for Villa and the other plays (word used very loosely) for City, so your eyes are lying to you. Stones though he sits on the bench really well for City, one of the best in the league at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny_Villaman84 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 So annoy as media still keep pick him as weakest and worse defender. When I read news it is completely different what I see the match. And consistent prides to stone (who bench most of last season and this season too) and When he on pitch performed worse of centre half still provide better prides even Mings is better performance repeat and his record England is very good games never let fans and players down and he most of time save stone (and Maguire) bumholed lots of a time. Yet sign him off worse compare to stone even Maguire. He is better leadership on pitch compare to Maguire, and do win aerial and block, interpection ball more than other yet poor rate. when Mings small mistake it is highlights on him and blame, when same games other defender small or big mistake yet forgiven and forget.. oh because Villa don't play champions League that reason he is not good enough but same games against same team other player flop even champion League experience. when Maguire come back stone still ahead Mings (euro 2020) I don't understand why it is obvious top 6 reason and Southgate favourite ...even Maguire not full fitness still play him over Mings when they got 2 clean sheets row. And when Mings play with Maguire they much better than Stone. Yet still drop him. Problem media didn't jump them cos experience even sit bench. as they did Grealish even still blame Southgate his decide. Konsa play more than Stone yet he not pick and better performance that tamori and other who call ahead him like white and coady, and other players when statistics Konsa far better than them. I think same problem as Mings cos champion/europa League is required even premiership top 8 is very strong miles away compare League that Italy and France, Spain, maybe Germany. Yet the reason Mings stay 3rd is reward his performance until hand to tomari or Gomez, or White occasion even poor games and still ahead Mings due champion League I believe these would naturally pull Mings down rinks the order. Even Mings (and Konsa way better them) I hope Southgate left so new manager will see common sense better which will never happened for long time. Or reform FA Criteria to focus tactical fitted players rather who they play for and where they play euro cups or not, even sit the bench. That why I never like read media report anymore cos they different tell match and report. Prefer watch the match and see this myself. They shouldve rate this Match rate: even play poor or worse even he bring goal and assist, or give away to goal to lose point performance rate: focus effort and concretely, block, win header, pass rate, help other, etc. Overrall: which them normal do this rate. I am sure both will tell massive difference rate. Like example. El ghazi and tregzuant (not offence) in rate they likes see this match report. even they could give u 8 or 9 with assist and goal etc with poor performance performance could put them 4 or 5. (Maybe 3) Overrall could still put him 6/7 ish yet could boost to 8/9 due goal and assist if it it was very important that people possible forget how his performance. In national they boost rate card : champion/Europa League, boost extra 0.5x-1x rate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, Danny_Villaman84 said: and he most of time save stone (and Maguire) bumholed lots of a time. Great post Danny and this is one of my favourite quotes of yours! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Can be great. When he's off it/being lazy and rash, it causes unnecessary panic for us at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I wish he was as calm and composed as he thinks he is. Wasn't the worst today but as the senior defender I'm sick to death of him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Not a captain imo, he lost composure again today and it spread through the team. Picked up a stupid booking and then went sloppy. I’m not a particular fan of his attitude as a captain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Captained us into destruction there. This for me is mostly on the players for switching off and bottling it. That’s also on Mings’s total lack of effective leadership and losing his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 He was purposefully slashing at the ball. It was strange, and like he was trying to look cocky by doing it. Wasting possession like that should result in bollockings from both Smith and our midfield. It created a lot of nervousness and gave Wolves further opportunities to build attacks. Was honestly a really poor and odd attitude to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) I think there are some aspects to his game that don't belong to PL level. Which is fine if you can mask them, but I think deep down he knows he has limitations and is a little insecure about it, and therefore tries to overcompensate by overplaying etc. Edited October 16, 2021 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Never seen a player slice a ball that often today from him, his concentration levels are shocking, moaning at the other players when they scored yet didn’t see him do much in defending that goal, I’d drop him but as he’s captain doubt smith would ever do such a thing Edited October 16, 2021 by rbcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, rbcuk said: Never seen a player slice a ball than today from him, his concentration levels are shocking, moaning at the other players when they scored yet didn’t see him do much in defending that goal, I’d drop him but as he’s captain doubt smith would ever do such a thing Worst thing is, he was purposefully slicing it. You could see the petulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Tom13 said: Worst thing is, he was purposefully slicing it. You could see the petulance. Why on earth would you think this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Tom13 said: Worst thing is, he was purposefully slicing it. You could see the petulance. He thinks he’s better than he actually is, the attitude from him in the game today was a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I like Mings but being captain seems to be having a negative effect. He shows leadership skills but is lacking composure more regularly now. That yellow today for piss arsing about sums it up for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, rbcuk said: Never seen a player slice a ball that often today from him, his concentration levels are shocking, moaning at the other players when they scored yet didn’t see him do much in defending that goal, I’d drop him but as he’s captain doubt smith would ever do such a thing Drop him for who? Tuanzebe who was **** terrible today or Hause who was **** terrible vs spurs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Why on earth would you think this? Maybe not the sliced one sorry, but the one he hacked at lazily, was blatantly done purposefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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