Zatman Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Tragic news and again puts it into perspective that its only a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Horrendous for that to happen to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2019 That's a massive blow, but it wouldn't surprise me if they used the tragedy in a positive way. Try and stay up for him. Obviously it's easier said than done, and they were bringing him in for a reason. But things like this can galvanise a team. This Cardiff were already a stubborn enough team to beat. They'll have everyone rooting for them now, despite who the manager is. For me it's between them & Newcastle to join Flum and 'uddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, BOF said: That's a massive blow, but it wouldn't surprise me if they used the tragedy in a positive way. Try and stay up for him. Obviously it's easier said than done, and they were bringing him in for a reason. But things like this can galavanise a team. This Cardiff were already a stubborn enough team to beat. They'll have everyone rooting for them now, despite who the manager is. For me it's between them & Newcastle to join Flum and 'uddersfield. Need to find someone else to fill the void as he was obviously coming in to lead the line for them. Difficult to do in such a short space of time and he was their number one target. Their other options are Naisse, Paterson, Ward and Bobby Reid so not enough to stay up with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Need to find someone else to fill the void as he was obviously coming in to lead the line for them. Difficult to do in such a short space of time and he was their number one target. Their other options are Naisse, Paterson, Ward and Bobby Reid so not enough to stay up with that. Niasse had a decent goal record last season for Everton in a similarly styled team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'll ask the question in here as doesn't seem right to do it in the thread specifically for the incident. What happens financially with Cardiff here? I know it's beside the point, life is more important, but I'm curious. Do Cardiff just have to write off that £15m? Will Nantes have any obligation to give anything back? it's an awkward situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'll ask the question in here as doesn't seem right to do it in the thread specifically for the incident. What happens financially with Cardiff here? I know it's beside the point, life is more important, but I'm curious. Do Cardiff just have to write off that £15m? Will Nantes have any obligation to give anything back? it's an awkward situation. I have been thinking this myself and likewise was not sure where or if to post it. I am curious to know if anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 He did sign for Cardiff, he is still listed as Cardiff record signing. Maybe Nantes could offer to return the fee as goodwill but probably not something to be decided at moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: He did sign for Cardiff, he is still listed as Cardiff record signing. Maybe Nantes could offer to return the fee as goodwill but probably not something to be decided at moment But if Nantes return the fee then they've lost out financially because they no longer have an "asset". Very strange scenario. I'm guessing technically it's entirely Cardiff's loss, but would be interesting to see how it's handled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'll ask the question in here as doesn't seem right to do it in the thread specifically for the incident. What happens financially with Cardiff here? I know it's beside the point, life is more important, but I'm curious. Do Cardiff just have to write off that £15m? Will Nantes have any obligation to give anything back? it's an awkward situation. Yeah I've been chatting elsewhere about this and the current thinking is Nantes will get their money and Cardiff will claim off insurance. It'll probably cock up the rest of their window though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, BOF said: Yeah I've been chatting elsewhere about this and the current thinking is Nantes will get their money and Cardiff will claim off insurance. It'll probably cock up the rest of their window though. Yeah there must be some sort of insurance policy against players due to their financial importance to clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Mozzavfc said: Yeah there must be some sort of insurance policy against players due to their financial importance to clubs Oh they're absolutely insured. He had signed for Cardiff, so leaving the emotions out of it, Nantes get their money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 18 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I'll ask the question in here as doesn't seem right to do it in the thread specifically for the incident. What happens financially with Cardiff here? I know it's beside the point, life is more important, but I'm curious. Do Cardiff just have to write off that £15m? Will Nantes have any obligation to give anything back? it's an awkward situation. Was thinking the same thing. I guess Cardiff are insured and get money back but it will probably be. Along process so messes them up for this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 20 hours ago, Mozzavfc said: Yeah there must be some sort of insurance policy against players due to their financial importance to clubs 20 hours ago, BOF said: Oh they're absolutely insured. He had signed for Cardiff, so leaving the emotions out of it, Nantes get their money. I'm no expert, but it's true that clubs have insurance for their players; especially in the Premier League, the playing squad is the club's second-most important financial asset. However, I can't help wondering about the specifics of the policies that clubs have: do you ensure a squad, or individual players? Did they have time to update their policy between him signing and the crash? Does the fact that he was their record signing make a difference to how much they could claim if they hadn't updated their policy? Does the apparent fact that he was flying on a plane that wasn't chartered by the club make a difference? etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) It was the agent it seemed who was tasked with arranging the transport, I wonder how much - if any - liability he would face? Whereever it stops someone has taken a cheap and "easy" route to transport I did go on a small aircraft when I was a kid - I think it was a 'flying eye' traffic reporting plane for BRMB if I remember rightly. I didn't like flying much anyway, but it definitely felt less secure! I think I've read too much in the last few days to ever consider going on one of those aircraft again though Edited January 24, 2019 by Rodders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted February 27, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 27, 2019 Assuming the bottom two have gone, it looks like it’ll be between these for the last spot. Cardiff - 25 points Wolves (a) West Ham (h) Chelsea (h) Man City (a) Burnley (a) Liverpool (h) Fulham (a) Palace (h) Man Utd (a) Southampton - 27 points Man Utd (a) Spurs (h) Brighton (a) Liverpool (h) Wolves (h) Newcastle (a) Bournemouth (h) West Ham (a) Huddersfield (h) Brighton - 27 points Huddersfield (h) Palace (a) Southampton (h) Spurs (a) Bournemouth (h) Wolves (a) Newcastle (h) Arsenal (a) Man City (h) Burnley - 30 points Palace (h) Liverpool (a) Leicester (h) Wolves (h) Bournemouth (a) Cardiff (h) Chelsea (a) Man City (h) Everton (a) Arsenal (h) I don’t believe Burnley will go, but if they don’t pick up a few points before going into that Cardiff game, they could well find themselves right in it. While unlikely, I think at a push Cardiff could reach 34-36 points, (2 or 3 wins and a few draws from Wolves/ West Ham/ Burnley/ Fulham/ Palace is feasible) so the others should be ok on 35-37 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Jeez. Brighton would want to be safe heading into their last two games. I still think it will be Cardiff, but Southampton have a pretty tough run home and Brighton will be in trouble if they don't pick up 3 points at home to Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Brighton are in awful form, not shocked if drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I was shocked to see Brighton where they are. I would not be suprised if its them. I'm hoping it's Cardiff to be honest. If it's Cardiff Huddersfield and Fulham there isn't that much to fear next season in my opinion. Out of the existing chamojo ship sides. You would think the teams looking to challenge wouldbe us forest Wednesday Stoke possibly Blose if embargo is taken away and any of the play off sides hwo don't make it. I think if Leeds don't go up Bielsa will leave an Di can see them imploding next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted February 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Di can see them imploding next year. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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