Villa 59 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Needs to start more games at a championship level. Not up to PL standard at present imo. Needs a year of deveopment elsewhere to see where's he's at. Hopeful but not convinced he make it at PL level! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I think he's more than good enough for us as a squad option if needed, but wouldn't be surprised to see him go on loan to a championship club in the summer, and no shame in that Abraham was on loan with us in the championship at an older age. Might allow us to then use Chukwuemeka next season in a similar way to how we're using Ramsey this season, maybe not starting league games, but giving him game time coming off the bench, before deciding whether he should go on loan himself the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 He's not ready yet. Lots of potential, and excited to see him develop, but right now he shouldn't be playing such a big part, imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 has he played 90 minutes yet? surely not doing his confidence much good getting subbed every time he plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I've seen players produce a lot more in their first few appearances and go on to fade into nothingness. He doesn't look anywhere Craig or Gary Gardener, Nathan baker, Kieran Clarke levels to me. Don't watch the u23's - but can't really share the excitement from what I have seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, hippo said: I've seen players produce a lot more in their first few appearances and go on to fade into nothingness. He doesn't look anywhere Craig or Gary Gardener, Nathan baker, Kieran Clarke levels to me. Don't watch the u23's - but can't really share the excitement from what I have seen so far. Gary Gardner looked like dog**** from his first appearance to his last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, hippo said: I've seen players produce a lot more in their first few appearances and go on to fade into nothingness. He doesn't look anywhere Craig or Gary Gardener, Nathan baker, Kieran Clarke levels to me. Don't watch the u23's - but can't really share the excitement from what I have seen so far. players develop at different stages. when mings was his age he was playing for chippenham town. when watkins was his age he was at exeter. it might happen for him, it might not. i hope it does. but he's a little way off right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Ramsey's doing fine, we're not stupid he wouldn't be getting game time ahead of the likes of Hourihane, Barkley and Sanson if he was as unimpressive as some are broadcasting; and it's not just about what he's doing now, it's also about his potential and the kind of player those that watch him regularly feel he's capable of developing into. If he makes it with us which I think he has a very good chance of doing, then I can see him playing for England one day, as he's the type of midfielder than England are lacking at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 hours ago, tomav84 said: has he played 90 minutes yet? surely not doing his confidence much good getting subbed every time he plays I think playing at all in the premier league will do a lot more for his confidence then a Friday lunchtime kick off against Burnley kids at Bodymore Heath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 For me, I think he absolutely needs a season loan to the championship next season so he's playing week in & week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Rather he gets the minutes and gain experience over Barkley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 12 hours ago, hippo said: I've seen players produce a lot more in their first few appearances and go on to fade into nothingness. He doesn't look anywhere Craig or Gary Gardener, Nathan baker, Kieran Clarke levels to me. Don't watch the u23's - but can't really share the excitement from what I have seen so far. Left five years ago and still we all insist on spelling his name wrong. Top notch shithousing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 He looks neat and tidy and has energy but I agree that he needs to go out and play and develop. He has consistently scored goals at England age levels so he has to have something. I am very hopeful to the lad but we need to manage his development now to ensure that he optimises the talent that he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, barry'sboots said: He looks neat and tidy and has energy but I agree that he needs to go out and play and develop. He has consistently scored goals at England age levels so he has to have something. I am very hopeful to the lad but we need to manage his development now to ensure that he optimises the talent that he has. He has? He only has one goal in the England under 20s according to wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I think a loan would do him good but I wouldn’t have a problem with him continuing to be a squad player either. He showed against Leeds and Wolves he can hold his own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Not ready for me. A loan be good for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: He has? He only has one goal in the England under 20s according to wikipedia. You're right. My mistake. I thought he'd scored in younger age categories. Still 1 goal in 1 game for the U-20's is not bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I think a loan would do him good but I wouldn’t have a problem with him continuing to be a squad player either. He showed against Leeds and Wolves he can hold his own. I don't think he'd gain a whole lot from a loan move - he looks ready to me, he's just come in at a time when the squad aren't firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 If people still don’t see what this kid brings to the table I don’t know what to tell them. Changed the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 He was very good when he came on. His energy and pressing helped change the game. Big up JJ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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