Phil Silvers Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, DCJonah said: Should be in the squad but a risk to throw him in. This is a winnable game and while I think mcginn has been poor, he's still the safe bet to start. It is a risk for sure but he looks up to it, I'm not dropping SJM for him though, Connor..... Jackie Ollie Bertie Ramsey Dougie Johnny Matty Mingsy Ezri Matty Emi That would knock Fulham in to next week for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Should be in the squad but a risk to throw him in. This is a winnable game and while I think mcginn has been poor, he's still the safe bet to start. I'm pretty sure it would be instead of Hourihane, if anybody. It's surely only VillaTalk who are entertaining the idea of dropping McGinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: It is a risk for sure but he looks up to it, I'm not dropping SJM for him though, Connor..... Jackie Ollie Bertie Ramsey Dougie Johnny Matty Mingsy Ezri Matty Emi That would knock Fulham in to next week for me Yeah, stupid me. I was picturing Jack in cm. Yeah, I wouldn't be against that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 27, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 27, 2020 Can't see him starting on Monday. Would bring him on from the bench though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, DaveAV1 said: On balance I think he should stay even if we add another midfielder. There are bound to be plenty of injuries and need for rotation with the compact nature of this season. A team that regularly needs to use Hourihane definitely has room for a kid of his quality. I’d hope that the coaches know enough about him to decide what’s best for both him and the team. I agree Dave. I do see advantages, him going out on loan, they learn the mans game.....but I also see disadvantages too. Its like other folk bringing up your kids. He needs close tutoring now, its tweaking as opposed to radical changes to his game and needs to be blended in to the Prem and our team.....He can be more closely monitored at B6. I want him to stay with us and break through. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I'm pretty sure it would be instead of Hourihane, if anybody. It's surely only VillaTalk who are entertaining the idea of dropping McGinn. Yeah, there's no chance McGinn gets dropped. Last season when he was struggling a bit we really saw the step off in quality when he got injured. He's an excellent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 With Ramsey, I’d keep him around the squad getting minutes and starting cup games, until the last few days of the window. Loan him out to the championship until January where hopefully he’d get some good game time. Reassess the position again in January and see if we have injuries, new signings settled etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Keep this guy and dont shove him on loan. If were to get rid of Ghazi then we should certainly have Ramsey on the bench. I mean have to say I'd play Ramsey before Ghazi anyway. Seems to put in a performance no matter where you put the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Ramsey's good enough to be a squad member this season but we have to look at the bigger picture and choose what's the best for his development in the long term, people want to keep him after two good performances against weaker oppposition, but what happens if his form drops as often happens with youngsters when they first breakthrough, people will want him dropped, it's no good him staying with us if he's going to be a bit part player getting fifteen minutes here and there, he's better off going somewhere where he's going to be first choice and get a consistent run of games something he hasn't had in his career to date at senior level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 18 hours ago, useless said: Ramsey's good enough to be a squad member this season but we have to look at the bigger picture and choose what's the best for his development in the long term, people want to keep him after two good performances against weaker oppposition, but what happens if his form drops as often happens with youngsters when they first breakthrough, people will want him dropped, it's no good him staying with us if he's going to be a bit part player getting fifteen minutes here and there, he's better off going somewhere where he's going to be first choice and get a consistent run of games something he hasn't had in his career to date at senior level. we do tend to give academy players a bit more time than new signings though. green was abysmal for us but there was always a real willingness for him to do well for us and many still calling to give him gametime right until the end i do think he should stay with us, he might not be playing regular PL football but he will be in and around the squad every day, will probably be in most matchday squads too. it will do him wonders than shipping him out to leyton orient or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, tomav84 said: we do tend to give academy players a bit more time than new signings though. green was abysmal for us but there was always a real willingness for him to do well for us and many still calling to give him gametime right until the end i do think he should stay with us, he might not be playing regular PL football but he will be in and around the squad every day, will probably be in most matchday squads too. it will do him wonders than shipping him out to leyton orient or something Lightyears better than Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Lightyears better than Green Being subjective, I'd say they're had similar levels of success. I'm happy with Ramsey so far, I think his age shines through more than anything though. Performance wise I think lansbury was better in both games I watched which is why I'd rather see Ramsey on loan and still learning, he has potential to go further but needs to play games. Making the next step is the hardest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 If we bring in a midfielder I think he will go out on loan just before the deadline so he is with the group as long as possible, if we don't then I think it makes sense to keep him. In terms of his development pro's and con's to each, ultimately though if he is good enough he will make it work either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Gets in the Matchday squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Be nice to see him get some minutes tonight. He’s got to look at Hourihane’s place and make that his aim. At least while he’s being picked for match day squads, he has the chance to impress the same as any other player does. I’d love him to take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 About to come on for his PL debut.. Good luck to the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 Only had the radio on so didn't see how he did. Decent PL debut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Glad he got some minutes, neat and tidy to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Lichfield Dean said: Only had the radio on so didn't see how he did. Decent PL debut? Very mature. Filled gaps, carried the ball, tracked back, moved the ball well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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