Villan_of_oz Posted October 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, PaulC said: Ramsey I'll give you that, fair call. So he has improved one player whilst the rest of the squad is basically in decline. Give him a 5 year extension.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, PaulC said: Ramsey Aaron? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Zatman said: He was breaking out before that and had just scored his first goal before Smith was sacked. Ramsey was breaking out last season regardless of manager Breakthrough under Smith. Yes. Best performances under Gerrard. Leeds away last season, Man Utd at VP, Norwich away, all under Gerrard. I hate the guy, but he's improved Ramsey. Fact. He's done nothing else for an of our young players, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Breakthrough under Smith. Yes. Best performances under Gerrard. Leeds away last season, Man Utd at VP, Norwich away, all under Gerrard. I hate the guy, but he's improved Ramsey. Fact. He's done nothing else for an of our young players, however. " Promote " him to Youth team Manager? Edited October 6, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: " Promote " him to Youth team Manager? Wouldn't be surprised at the moment with some of the decision making going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Steero113 said: Breakthrough under Smith. Yes. Best performances under Gerrard. Leeds away last season, Man Utd at VP, Norwich away, all under Gerrard. I hate the guy, but he's improved Ramsey. Fact. He's done nothing else for an of our young players, however. or just natural development whilst usually being played out of position, im close to saying he's better for the U21s than he is for us but i do think depending on the line up thats usually because he looks like the U21 player that actually plays PL football every week did steve bruce or dean smith really make grealish better or was he always just going to get better the more he played? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: or just natural development whilst usually being played out of position, im close to saying he's better for the U21s than he is for us but i do think depending on the line up thats usually because he looks like the U21 player that actually plays PL football every week did steve bruce or dean smith really make grealish better or was he always just going to get better the more he played? Time Sherwood did mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: Time Sherwood did mate. I know, we're still waiting for him to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Is it just me who thinks that, just like Grealish, he'd benefit from playing further up the field? He goes missing in crowded midfields, defending isn't his strongest attribute, and his biggest strength is running at and past players, which would be easier to do if you have one less line of players to run at. His finishing is also very good, and he'd certainly get more chances to do that. Come to think about it, start him up front ahead of Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, WooJung said: Is it just me who thinks that, just like Grealish, he'd benefit from playing further up the field? He goes missing in crowded midfields, defending isn't his strongest attribute, and his biggest strength is running at and past players, which would be easier to do if you have one less line of players to run at. His finishing is also very good, and he'd certainly get more chances to do that. Come to think about it, start him up front ahead of Watkins I’ve been saying the same for time, play him where coutinho plays and we become so much more dangerous in attack. He’s not a great passer, or at least hasn’t been in the position he’s played in currently. He runs at teams and can finish, and it would free a midfield spot for someone more suited to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 11 hours ago, Steero113 said: I hate the guy, but he's improved Ramsey. Fact. That's far from a fact. Ramsey is a young player getting better with experience. I'd argue slippy is slowing down his development. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: I’ve been saying the same for time, play him where coutinho plays and we become so much more dangerous in attack. He’s not a great passer, or at least hasn’t been in the position he’s played in currently. He runs at teams and can finish, and it would free a midfield spot for someone more suited to it. In a good way, his game is similar to Dele Alli before it all fell apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 06/10/2022 at 22:16, Dale said: In a good way, his game is similar to Dele Alli before it all fell apart! He has more to his game than Alli. Alli can't/couldn't dribble to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, Tom13 said: He has more to his game than Alli. Alli can't/couldn't dribble to save his life. Different type of players, but on his day Alli was a very good player, in 16/17 he scored 18 and assisted 7. That would be one of our best ever individual goal scoring performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Different type of players, but on his day Alli was a very good player, in 16/17 he scored 18 and assisted 7. That would be one of our best ever individual goal scoring performances. True, but I think that was a freak season in a good system. I always thought that ability wise he was very limited. What are his stand out abilities? Positioning and finishing, that's it. And I even think that season was a freak season for him finishing wise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Tom13 said: True, but I think that was a freak season in a good system. I always thought that ability wise he was very limited. What are his stand out abilities? Positioning and finishing, that's it. And I even think that season was a freak season for him finishing wise. Yeah me too, Alli was a statistical monster and that was enough for people in the media to not have to watch him but still declare him as world class walk in to the barca team His footballing skillset for things like passing and carrying the ball were poor, he had great timing and finishing but he was never a player going to shine taking 80 touches a game or having the game played through him, Ramsey could 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 06/10/2022 at 22:03, villa89 said: That's far from a fact. Ramsey is a young player getting better with experience. I'd argue slippy is slowing down his development. Solid spin, you'd do well in Whitehall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2022 Scores a goal every now and then, which is more than many others, but not enough for the time he plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He's being played completely wrong. The odd chance he gets in his right position is when we are most dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He’s our best central midfielder now. Not perfect, but plenty there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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