VillaChris 7,065 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, wilko154 said: And chuck them in with 20 minutes to go in a game we are trying to get back into... Guess DS just thought it was a chance to give him some minutes. Not going to be knee jerk and write him off first game but he's not some defensive colossus otherwise Wolves would be keeping him wouldn't they? Link to post Share on other sites
AVTuco 3,732 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Not writing him off, but he looks horrible. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Pangloss 14,012 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Brainless decision to play him. He's clearly off the pace but when you're chasing a game away to Wigan why in the **** do you bring a centre half on? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Junxs 2,805 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Think we should loan him out to a league 1 side 2 Link to post Share on other sites
GENTLEMAN 3,197 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Brainless decision to play him. He's clearly off the pace but when you're chasing a game away to Wigan why in the **** do you bring a centre half on? I think the idea was to have a centre back who could break through the 1st press and get Wigan turned. Didn’t work and he was closed down efficiently, but let’s not forget he hasn’t played much 1st team football for a while. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Keener window-cleaner 1,721 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Having heard DS reasoning why he put him on I understand the decision a bit more. He said Wigan made us have Chester playing out the ball with his left foot and wanted more balance with Hause so he could play it out with his natural left foot. It's actually a very shrewed observation and probably what hampered our possibilities to have possession. Now it didn't work and Hause was rusty as DS said, imo not only rusty but a constant liability. But nevertheless good to hear the rational reasoning behind it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AshVilla 5,910 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Thank god it's just a loan. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post MaVilla 5,599 Posted January 12, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 let step back s second. He would certainly be nervous for his first game. He hasnt played a first team game for quite a while. He is likely very rusty. He was given his debut while we were in total meltdown, which is basically the worst case scenario. Im not saying he will be good for us, but ia lso think there are so many mitigating factors for this debut, we gotta give the guy some slack. Im still hopeful he will come good, but also he needs some time to shake the rust off and get in the groove, preferably while the team isnt in the middle of a total incompetent meltdown. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
dudevillaisnice 2,999 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Having heard DS reasoning why he put him on I understand the decision a bit more. He said Wigan made us have Chester playing out the ball with his left foot and wanted more balance with Hause so he could play it out with his natural left foot. It's actually a very shrewed observation and probably what hampered our possibilities to have possession. Now it didn't work and Hause was rusty as DS said, imo not only rusty but a constant liability. But nevertheless good to hear the rational reasoning behind it. I don’t think he is good on the ball though, to be fair we were warned he is good physically but lacks the technical part of the game. Now obviously today we can put it down to lack of match fitness but I don’t understand how in the long term he is suddenly going to bring the ball out comfortably when it isn’t what he is good at. This is why I’m not sure this signing makes sense when he doesn’t fit in with the style of play. I’m not writing him off I’m just looking at what he brings and how it’s a mismatch. Link to post Share on other sites
Keener window-cleaner 1,721 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: I don’t think he is good on the ball though, to be fair we were warned he is good physically but lacks the technical part of the game. Now obviously today we can put it down to lack of match fitness but I don’t understand how in the long term he is suddenly going to bring the ball out comfortably when it isn’t what he is good at. This is why I’m not sure this signing makes sense when he doesn’t fit in with the style of play. I’m not writing him off I’m just looking at what he brings and how it’s a mismatch. fully agree, like I said above the most worrying for me was that he looked dodgy on the ball. If we want to be a passing team playing it out of the back we need good passers at CB. Really hope it's just rustiness. Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwivillan 4,017 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 He hasn't played a first team game for a while because he isn't a Wolves first team player. Bananas signing. Still can't believe it Link to post Share on other sites
Stockport_Villain 308 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Very rusty and off the pace. Will watch with interest. Link to post Share on other sites
screwdriver 906 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Why didn't he start the game with Hause then? Did he think Wigan wouldn't press being the home team? Unbelievable! But to think he would come on and be a game changer after not playing for a long time? incredible Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyp102 4,688 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 The way Smith has talked about him or a lot potential that we can train up, would seem to indicate that this will be a permanent transfer. If so then we have to blood him now, get the mistakes out the way this season so that he is fully fit and ready for next season. Let’s not forget how bad Axel was before getting a continued run in the side. However, if we aren’t going to sign him then I’d rather we bloodied Revan to see if he is ready for next year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
nnock1984 279 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Needs time - shaky start though! Link to post Share on other sites
Thug 1,262 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: let step back s second. He would certainly be nervous for his first game. He hasnt played a first team game for quite a while. He is likely very rusty. He was given his debut while we were in total meltdown, which is basically the worst case scenario. Im not saying he will be good for us, but ia lso think there are so many mitigating factors for this debut, we gotta give the guy some slack. Im still hopeful he will come good, but also he needs some time to shake the rust off and get in the groove, preferably while the team isnt in the middle of a total incompetent meltdown. It's more a criticism of DS than Hause. Either he wasn't ready and got thrown on, or he's awful. I'd hedge my bets it's the former. Link to post Share on other sites
mickjacobjr 57 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Give the fellow a chance like he hasn’t played in a long time and he came on a game in today where we were awful before he came on Link to post Share on other sites
tonyh29 12,983 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I remember the horror show that was Ugo’s debut ... so I won’t write him off just yet 3 Link to post Share on other sites
wilko154 3,671 Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Don't get me wrong he was horribly bad when he came on but... He should never have been thrown in at the deep on end on his debut whilst 1-0 down and under pressure. He's not played much football lately, and to come on from the bench and be expected to get up to the games pace straight away whilst being subjected to an onslaught was ridiculous. He tried to go forward and play out from the back but whereas Tuanzebe normally does it and releases to Jack, we had nobody available today. He will be fine at Villa, but it was crazy for Smith to chuck him on like that. Even crazier when we were 1-0 down with two strikers on the bench! Link to post Share on other sites
sir_gary_cahill 2,965 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 I only saw highlights of the match on Quest last night but I wouldn’t write him off after one match, I think that would be foolish. He’s barely played for Wolves lately either, all I have to go on is YouTube clips, he looks dominant in the air on there, not only that but he looks good on the deck too. You can’t judge a player based on one game 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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