His Name Is Death Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Little grovelling bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 New allegations against former ref David Elleray - he remains in very senior positions (chairing the FA referees’ committee and technical director at the International Football Association Board A whistleblower came forward and accused the FA of covering up Elleray's racism - they deny it, of course. At a referees conference at St George’s Park in 2014, Elleray asked a black former FA employee: “You look rather tanned” and “have you been down a coal mine?”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Jesus christ. Am I right in thinking Uriah Rennie is the only non-white ref to ever make it to the PL? I can't even remember any BAME assistant refs at that level, though I have to admit it's not something I really look out for. With attitudes like that at the top, it makes me wonder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, The_Steve said: New allegations against former ref David Elleray - he remains in very senior positions (chairing the FA referees’ committee and technical director at the International Football Association Board A whistleblower came forward and accused the FA of covering up Elleray's racism - they deny it, of course. At a referees conference at St George’s Park in 2014, Elleray asked a black former FA employee: “You look rather tanned” and “have you been down a coal mine?”. Pals, calm down, how can we jump to such conclusions? Maybe the ref in question was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and also coal miners' hat? Everyone so touchy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 17/12/2021 at 21:21, bobzy said: Pals, calm down, how can we jump to such conclusions? Maybe the ref in question was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and also coal miners' hat? Everyone so touchy these days. This forum is very 'woke' on race relations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomav84 Posted December 20, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, paul514 said: This forum is very 'woke' on race relations. good. being woke is a good thing. woke /wəʊk/ adjective informal•US adjective: woke; comparative adjective: woker; superlative adjective: wokest alert to injustice in society, especially racism. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Leeds fans were at it yesterday allegedly, accusations of racially abusing the Arsenal substitutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 hours ago, paul514 said: This forum is very 'woke' on race relations. Are you saying that's a bad thing? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Not sure if this belongs here or in the Spurs thread but since Spurs released a statement today asking fans to move on from their use of a derogatory word for people of a Jewish heritage it got me thinking if I’d ever heard antisemitism at the football. Ive heard racism and homophobia at the football but never antisemitism. Fwiw when I hear the spurs fans chanting that it does make me wince a bit. I mean, not all spurs fans are Jewish so there’s got to be a large portion of those singing it for whom it’s more about their perceived identity as a club rather than “reclaiming the word”. That’s just my opinion. Frankly in my life I don’t think I’ve ever heard that word outside of a footballing/spurs context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: Not sure if this belongs here or in the Spurs thread but since Spurs released a statement today asking fans to move on from their use of a derogatory word for people of a Jewish heritage it got me thinking if I’d ever heard antisemitism at the football. Ive heard racism and homophobia at the football but never antisemitism. Fwiw when I hear the spurs fans chanting that it does make me wince a bit. I mean, not all spurs fans are Jewish so there’s got to be a large portion of those singing it for whom it’s more about their perceived identity as a club rather than “reclaiming the word”. That’s just my opinion. Frankly in my life I don’t think I’ve ever heard that word outside of a footballing/spurs context. I think Chelsea/West Ham fans have chanted some anti-Semitic stuff when they faced Spurs in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: I think Chelsea/West Ham fans have chanted some anti-Semitic stuff when they faced Spurs in the past. They hiss at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I think Chelsea/West Ham fans have chanted some anti-Semitic stuff when they faced Spurs in the past. Think they should Chelsea rent boy back. Its all in the role of staying classy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 It must be so so bad. Sky couldn't even say the word today, it was "the Y word". Surely if it's used in context to a news story they can say it. Sky strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, foreveryoung said: It must be so so bad. Sky couldn't even say the word today, it was "the Y word". Surely if it's used in context to a news story they can say it. Sky strikes again. Not sure what the benefit to sky or anybody is in them publishing the word. We all know what it is. What’s the problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, foreveryoung said: It must be so so bad. Sky couldn't even say the word today, it was "the Y word". Surely if it's used in context to a news story they can say it. Sky strikes again. What a weird comment. It’s an offensive term that the Spurs statement avoided using. I imagine this will be why Sky and BBC and (I imagine) most other news outlets will have used the content of that statement. On another note, I’m surprised there’s been no comment of the happenings at Morecambe vs Bolton the other day. Morecambe fans delivering tons of abuse to the Bolton staff and bench directly in front of them, apparently also spitting at them and then it turned to racist abuse too. Eventually, in the 88th minute, the players were taken off. At that point, the game was 1-0 to Morecambe with Bolton down to 10 men. After a 10 min stoppage, Bolton scored a late equaliser and celebrated by giving the “shhhh” to that exact section of Morecambe fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 10 hours ago, foreveryoung said: It must be so so bad. Sky couldn't even say the word today, it was "the Y word". Surely if it's used in context to a news story they can say it. Sky strikes again. Like any racial slur you don’t give it the oxygen of publicity. It’s why we say the N-word or P-word. It’s about educating people and normalising a discussion which doesn’t harm Jewish people. I’m sure a few years ago presenters probably said it, now at least, they know not to. I’d call that progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 My girlfriend summed it up yesterday when she asked what the Y word is and then saying she’d never even heard it before: I doubt I’d have heard it if it weren’t for Spurs, total storm in a teacup this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 My mate at uni is Jewish and a Spurs fan. Always referred to himself and them as Y words. I never thought anything of it or got the link when I was 18. He introduced me to a girl he knew who was always a Spurs fan and I said something like "Ah so you're a y word then". Fair to say I established the link from the look she gave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 15 hours ago, desensitized43 said: Ive heard racism and homophobia at the football but never antisemitism. Mark Bosnich says hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Here's a good explainer about the Y-word and Spurs Quote "We f---ing hate Tottenham and we hate Tottenham." The spirit of hospitality extended to both home and away supporters hadn't spread to a gaggle of Sheffield United supporters as they spilled out of a popular pre-match venue before the League Cup semi-final in 2013. https://www.thejc.com/lifestyle/features/how-tottenham-became-the-jewish-football-team-1.53784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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