Ratings & Reactions: Norwich v Villa

[Lerner's Driver]

Depressingly predictable. 

[LakotaDakota]

4 minutes ago, dounavilla said:

Gone under the radar somewhat but Chester has been horrendous this season so far and I fear the captaincy is weighing him down.

Works best when next to a real leader (Terry).

I made a half-hearted remark in one of the other threads that perhaps Jedinak looks a bit ropey at CB sometimes because he is constantly covering for Chester being shit. Don't think i was too far wrong.

As for the captaincy thing, Brentford had a solution to that. Different captain every game

Edited October 23, 2018 by LakotaDakota

[wilko154]

Unfortunately Smith lost that game by bringing on Hogan over Kodjia, the game needed a player to hold the ball up top and Hogan doesn't do that/or anything else.

In saying that the team created nothing for Hogan and some of the passing was atrocious.

Badly missed McGinn and Bjarnasson in the midfield.

[BleedClaretAndBlue]

Lol Klose throwin a f bomb into his interview

Tuanzebe MOTM

Things will get better. Its a long season. Boro drawing 0-0 at home to Rotherham. Bloose going about 10 unbeaten. We are juat going through a very poor spell. Few weeks getting used to new ideas and the quality we have should rise to the surface, players feeling more comfortable with what they need to do. Norwich looked pony last season, bit of time with their manager and they all of a sudden look a decent outfit. They deserved the win, we will improve. I have more faith than I ever did under previous regimes. People just want and expect instant success. Patience fellas

[villa89]

12 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said:

We didn't play particularly well, but didn't derserve to lose. Thought we were slightly better. 

What game were you watching? We got dominated in the second half and when they went ahead they took their foot off the gas because we offered so little. Norwich were full value for the win. 

Edited October 23, 2018 by villa89

[kiltorken]

Tuanzebe was the only bright point. 

Also I didn't realise how big a chap El Gahzi was, not sure that's a bright point but I'll take it anyway. 

[Talldarkandransome]

Didn't see first half so can only comment on the second half. Grealish was fouled several times and fell over, resulting set pieces were awful. Goalie frightens me on corners and Thompson played a blinder until he ran into Hutton.

Lots of work still to do, I have faith in the coaching team and most of the players.

[YLN]

That second half could have gone on for a thousand years and we wouldn't have scored

[OutByEaster?]

Well, we are what we are - it's a squad with strengths and weaknesses. At the back we're going to be inconsistent, and the keeper is a real worry, but this is all there is to work with and it won't change until January at the earliest. For all the glamour of Bolasie and El Ghazi coming in during the summer, we're weak in wide areas and there is a noticeable drop off in quality when Abraham isn't on the field up front.

That said, there are still lots of good things about this squad - with McGinn back we're stronger and whilst they'll each have their critics, both Hourihane and Grealish are strengths at this level. There were some signs of a pattern in the first half and in the end, I think a game against a good side away from home only turned on a couple of quick injuries that unsettled us and let Norwich find an equaliser and a load of confidence.

We're a long way off the finished article, but we're not far off being competitive in my opinion.

 

[thunderball]

2 minutes ago, hippo said:

I just gave up when he brought Hogan on ...to make it worse kjodia was an option.  and then for 20 minutes of the 2nd half we were walking with the ball ?  - Very worried after tonight.

I think Hogan deserved a chance to prove himself worthy of consideration, but he failed big time. He looks like a fatter, less dynamic Mickey Quinn.

[Rugeley Villa]

Let’s not play down how good norwich were. Didn’t give us a breather all game. 

[vreitti]

Well that didn't last long. Commence the overreactions. Hutton is garbage. Taylor is crap. Keeper is useless. Hogan's a turd. Sell Grealish. Bring back Bruce...

El-Ghazi sucks though. For real.

UTV

[Davkaus]

Just now, Rugeley Villa said:

Let’s not play down how good norwich were. Didn’t give us a breather all game. 

I thought we looked comfortably the better team in the first 45. 2 forced subs early on  didn't help.

[dounavilla]

5 minutes ago, KJT123 said:

What did Hogan actually do when he came on? He doesn't do himself any favours.

Probably the same as me if I was brought on. Try as hard as I can but at the end of the day im a shit footballer.

Edited October 23, 2018 by dounavilla

[romavillan]

Nyland's got them back in the game. Albert going off changed things for us. Too stretched by miles the later it got into the second half, 1st half we were compact and we looked loads better.

Had Abraham's shot gone in and Nyland not had a brain fart on their corner for their first then things could have been very different.

Patience needed, Smith's only had a few days. The more we rushed it and tried to chase it at 1-1 and then even more at 2-1 the more ragged we got and the worse we looked. When they were keeping the shape and keeping compact we looked better on the ball. 

[TRO]

If he didn't know before, he knows now.

Dean Smith has a lot of work to do.....to make anything of this lot.

poor, poor football in that second half.

Edited October 23, 2018 by TRO

[Herman22]

This game hinged on one act. Their centre back kicked Abraham in the head. He went off and we looked toothless after that. 

The team looks too unfit to play this style, DS needs time but the first half gives me hope. 

[Paul33]

Nyland cost us the first, Chester the second, both were poor all game as were both full backs and Hourihane was usual League Two standard but I expect that now !

Positives, Tuanzebe was superb as was Whelan and we pressed well early doors but as Smith is learning, our players are used to 90 minutes of walking Bruceball. Once we start running then we run out of gas because the players are not fit enough to play that sort of game.

No disgrace losing to Norwich and a win at QPR gives us a decent 6 from 9 return but the players need to get fitter for certain !

[KJT123]

I'm not really that concerned about the performance. We had a plan and some of our passing was very good.

It's just the handful of players that aren't very good are really costing us. Nyland started the collapse by coming for that corner. Abraham, our focal point, came off and we replaced him with Hogan, a player that would be pushed off the ball by a shadow.

El Ghazi was good in the little glimpses we saw of him, he needs to start over Adomah going forward. Tuanzebe was brilliant, both defensively and with the ball at his feet. 

[MaVilla]

To be fair i dont really blame the manager, its quite clear from that match, that we dont have the players to play a progressive style of play currently, apart from a few players like Abraham, tuzanebe, Elmo, Grealish, and even Kodjia showed a few nice touches on the ground, even El Ghazi showed a few glimpes of what he can do, but seemed off the pace a lot, which may be because he hasnt really played.

Norwich gave us a lesson in the style of play we want to see, and they are currently light years ahead in that area, lets not fool ourselves, we were beaten by a very good side in Norwich.

I think we need to see this as a development project, hopefully DS will have the chance to bring a few players in in January, we need a LB, CB, RB, probably a MC/DM, we prob also need 1-2 AM's, who can all play the system DS wants.

Honestly though, we need to be realistic and see that DS has inherited a fair few players who will never be able to play anything other than lump it football, if it takes 6-12 months to get the right players in, to develop the team then so be it, if we are still moaning this time next season, then i think we will have a reasonable right to ask whats going on.

 

Edited October 23, 2018 by MaVilla