Alakagom Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 He has zero tactics on how to defend a lead against teams that will press you hard. And obviously we have limited players but you can't tell me Luiz, McCgin or Nakamba are incapable of few passess and keeping the ball. If all you do is hoofball, the end result will always be us loosing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, villalad21 said: What about Spurs and Arsenal? Much better sides than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Khizzy said: Crap subs. Sorry Deano but you'll need to shoulder the blame for this defeat. Why he didn't bring on Konsa for Wesley is completely beyond me. Yes because taking a striker off for a defender so there's nobody upfield is always successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Oh look everyone, it's captain hindsight To be fair even the commentator on my stream suggested bringing on a fifth defender, after about 60-70 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: That sub may not have made a difference. I don't accept at all that Smith has to 'shoulder the blame', that's nonsense. Our players just weren't good enough to get the job done. I agree, Smith isnt playing on the team, even his Subs are of a quality problem. While I'm frustrated it's because of problems more than a Coaching problem, lack of everything in the playing department is what's costing us games. When you go and buy a bunch of cheap players because of much needed replacements you do so to the best of your ability. Our quality is laughable really against the likes of Allison, Dijk, Salah, Mane, Fermino, Shaqiri, Fabinho, Matip and more it's just a surprise that it isn't more than 2-1, I think our lads deserve a big applause, but they do have to take blame for the concentration lapses that cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alakagom said: He has zero tactics on how to defend a lead against teams that will press you hard. And obviously we have limited players but you can't tell me Luiz, McCgin or Nakamba are incapable of few passess and keeping the ball. If all you do is hoofball, the end result will always be us loosing. Dean smith is instructing players to give the ball away rush everything and punt it to nobody. got it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Deano got it spot on for me tactics and subs. We were excellent, so gutted for the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2019 The absolute state of some of the posts in here. He's the best manager we've had since I can remember and as a newly promoted side, we're really pissed off that we didn't get anything out of a game against the champions of Europe and top 2 side in the country. Doesn't that tell you something? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 To be honest im not dissapointed about losing to liverpool, I'm just disappointed about the manner of consistently bottling games we could have taken points from. Once or twice is fine, but we do it ALL THE TIME, bringing hourihane on to close out a game was a mistake though, and why did he bring Elmo on for Guilbert? We need to wise up fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Dean smith is instructing players to give the ball away rush everything and punt it to nobody. got it. Oof. Yea that's exactly what my post said. Facetious much. I guess if we had Pep over here we would have hoofballed that in same manner yea? And it's not even about Pep but having some kind of strategy to combat what we have seen so far against Totenham..Arsenal..Everton (had great chances to equalize many times) and now Liverpool. Except we don't. We play exactly the same. So you either admit our players suck quite a bit ( which doesn't seem to be the case when we are pretty competent until 2nd halves), or put some blame on the coach and his tactics. Edited November 2, 2019 by Alakagom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 What does get me is those of you who defend the no sale of some players like kodjia, Davis, Elmo, Taylor, Hogan, Lansbury are then wondering why we are losing games in the second half. We need to in the next transfer get rid of these and bring in quality replacements in the places. Villa needs to move to the next level, quality next because we've done quantity, then we might start winning these second half that were losing against the top 6 clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Fantastic from Deano. A hairs breadth away from a memorable Win. Im glad Ill only see a couple of fans personally tonight having read some of the comments on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dave-R said: I agree, Smith isnt playing on the team, even his Subs are of a quality problem. While I'm frustrated it's because of problems more than a Coaching problem, lack of everything in the playing department is what's costing us games. When you go and buy a bunch of cheap players because of much needed replacements you do so to the best of your ability. Our quality is laughable really against the likes of Allison, Dijk, Salah, Mane, Fermino, Shaqiri, Fabinho, Matip and more it's just a surprise that it isn't more than 2-1, I think our lads deserve a big applause, but they do have to take blame for the concentration lapses that cost us. One big area we lack is fitness and I think there's three non-mutually exclusive reasons. (1) Deficiency in training - I personally think this is not the case as we have good coaches and excellent facilities. (2) Players new to the league taking time to adapt - this is definitely the case in many circumstances, it takes a long time to build fitness levels for this league. (3) Genetics - not every player can do it for 90 minutes and retain their levels at this level of football, even with loads of fitness training, and this is very much a 'quality' of player issue. Top players at top clubs these days are elite athletes for their sport, we just don't seem to have that calibre of athlete at our club. You're also right when you talk about concentration issues. Concentration and awareness is poor over the course of a match for most of our players, it's a hard thing to correct that can take a lot of time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alakagom said: He has zero tactics on how to defend a lead against teams that will press you hard. And obviously we have limited players but you can't tell me Luiz, McCgin or Nakamba are incapable of few passess and keeping the ball. If all you do is hoofball, the end result will always be us loosing. Not sure I’ve ever read a less justifiable post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: What does get me is those of you who defend the no sale of some players like kodjia, Davis, Elmo, Taylor, Hogan, Lansbury are then wondering why we are losing games in the second half. We need to in the next transfer get rid of these and bring in quality replacements in the places. Villa needs to move to the next level, quality next because we've done quantity, then we might start winning these second half that were losing against the top 6 clubs. Would like this if I had any left! None of those players are premier league standard, we really need a couple of smart signings in January and then build from there next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: why did he bring Elmo on for Guilbert? Guilbert looked injured to me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: Not sure I’ve ever read a less justifiable post. You said soaking up pressure for entirety of 2nd half is fantastic football. So yea, I don't think your opinion has any value for what it's wroth. Sam Allardyce tactics truly the peak of football. Fantastic. Edited November 2, 2019 by Alakagom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Just now, wazzap24 said: Guilbert looked injured to me? Guilbert was injured from about the 8th minute. Full credit to him for lasting out that long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2019 Today Smith made subs early enough. Except for Elmo, they didn't have a positive effect. Konsa for Wesley? Really? That would be exactly what Bruce would do. No, today Smith got things mostly right. Our players are just not mentally ready yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) I think Dean Smith would get less flak if we just got outplayed and lost 3-0 to Spurs, 3-0 to Arsenal and 4-0 to Liverpool. These are top teams, when we take the lead they are going to up it and apply pressure. City did it today v Saints. As long as this isn't happening each week v teams around us I am not concerned, we are doing fine. Edited November 2, 2019 by AndyM3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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